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[#] Mon Oct 04 2004 20:06:15 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Oct 1 2004 6:20am from IO ERROR @iowacity (Iowa City)
Get out of here with that crippled cable crap. That much bandwidth is

useless with all the restrictions they put on it.

I second that.

[#] Mon Oct 04 2004 20:08:49 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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they block 80, 25 and 1414 so far that I've noticed.
I hope the dsl thing works out, if it does.
I'm going to do massive up and downs until they drop me, those fuckers.
as for the extra $10, it's not worth it to me a) I'm cheap, and b) the extra bandwidth doesn't help me, if I need something, I let it download over nighttime. so long as it's faster than dialup and I can run servers with static ip

[#] Mon Oct 04 2004 21:28:31 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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What's on 1414?

[#] Mon Oct 04 2004 23:21:08 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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You sure that's not 1434?

1414 is some sort of service used by IBM MQSeries. 1434, on the other hand, is a Microsoft SQL Server port, the exact one used by the Slammer worm.

[#] Thu Oct 07 2004 09:47:40 EDT from Oppie Taylor @ Uncensored

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IO ERROR, it could be your DSL modem.

[#] Thu Oct 07 2004 17:50:11 EDT from IO ERROR @ Iowa City

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Both of them? Come on, get real.

[#] Sun Oct 10 2004 21:20:25 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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oh your right, mq is 1414 (I play with mq all day at work that's probably why my fingers typed it)
sorry, it was 1214, the default kazaa port.

[#] Mon Dec 13 2004 18:19:26 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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a note I just sent to verizon. I know it will amount to a form letter, but
I just had to try:
I've tried to sign up for DSL over the past few years with various DSL providers and I'm just out of reach of the CO.
I'm in the IT field and know all about repeaters and switches and realize what you'd have to go through to get DSL service to my house. I hate the cable company, but I have no other broadband option. So I was wondering what I'd have to do to get you guys to make it possible for me to get DSL at my house.
Imagine I'm bill gates for a second (I'm not , but just imagine) and I couldn't get DSL beacuse of the physical limitations of the copper between the CO and my house. What would you do?

[#] Mon Dec 13 2004 18:21:51 EST from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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(voice of Lilly Tomlin..)
"We don't have to care. We're the phone company".

[#] Mon Dec 13 2004 19:06:32 EST from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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They'd run a T1 to your house.

[#] Mon Dec 13 2004 22:11:03 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Hmm. I wonder what they charge for 56kbps DDS circuits these days?

(To the naive: that's more bandwidth than you think.)

[#] Tue Dec 14 2004 00:11:58 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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hmm... so I should order a T1, cancel it then order dsl?

[#] Tue Dec 14 2004 07:25:58 EST from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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Nah, because as soon as the pairs go back into the system, you'll never see them again.... Someone will get a nice clean phone line though.

[#] Tue Dec 14 2004 08:31:44 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Unfortunately all you can do is wait for the next infrastructure upgrade.
It helps to have a friend in the business if your loop length is "borderline" but if you're more than 18,000 to 20,000 feet out, you're going to have to wait until the next upgrade (or at least until someone starts offering IDSL in your area).

[#] Tue Dec 14 2004 12:08:05 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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IDSL stands for "IwantmyDSL"?

The response I got was call customer service.

[#] Tue Dec 14 2004 12:45:02 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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IDSL is an ISDN loop, terminated on a DSLAM instead of on a telephone switch.  Instead of 64+64+16 they just aggregate the whole U-loop together and give you a dedicated 144kbps circuit.  It can go up to 50,000 feet because telco is capable of installing U-loop repeaters (which were designed for ISDN but will work on IDSL as well) at the 25,000 foot mark.

Of course, you need to have a DSL provider who has IDSL capability in your central office.  Lemme know if you find one -- I'll give you my old IDSL bridge.

[#] Wed Dec 15 2004 00:05:19 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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HA! yeah the phone company loves me that much.

[#] Wed Dec 15 2004 08:27:39 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Telco will do the U-loop if a DSL provider orders one. Verizon-based DSL providers don't have an IDSL offering, though. Northpoint did, which is why I had IDSL for a year or so. By the time Northpoint went under, I somehow qualified for regular ADSL. Go figure.

[#] Fri Jan 07 2005 14:59:30 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I can't really hear the response too well.. it's extremely quiet (even after turning up my speakers about as far as I can go).

[#] Fri Jan 07 2005 15:26:15 EST from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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Brilliant. I think it's time for another angry email, this time about how they answered your customer service complaint with a sales call.

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