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[#] Wed Sep 08 2004 21:36:16 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Word on the street is that Verizon is planning to start offering dry loop ADSL, possibly by the end of this year. If they can do that (particularly if they pass that tech through to partner ISP's, which they probably will) I will probably cancel both of my phone lines and use the savings to sign up for VoIP and more bandwidth.

[#] Fri Sep 10 2004 15:04:18 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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english for those of us non network dudes?

[#] Fri Sep 10 2004 15:19:54 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Dry loop ADSL (also known as "naked" ADSL) simply means that they'll let you have the DSL service by itself without having to also be a telephone subscriber.
Right now you have to be a Verizon telephone subscriber and then you can add ADSL to the line. Without that requirement,

[#] Fri Sep 10 2004 15:20:22 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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*feels like he has been left hanging*

[#] Fri Sep 10 2004 21:40:21 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Sorry about that ... buncha stuff went shitstorm at the office and I had to abandon my CitaBreak :)

Anyway, without the requirement to carry POTS (Plain Old Telephone Service) along with DSL, I could drop both of my phone lines, use the money saved to buy more DSL bandwidth, and sign up for Vonage or some other voice-over-IP service.

When the phone isn't in use (which is most of the time) the extra bandwidth would go directly to the BBS.

[#] Sat Sep 11 2004 10:25:46 EDT from Sig @ PixelBBS

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That would be so nice. We have DSL here, but I'm required to maintain a land line so the company can get hold of me round the clock. Cells aren't reliable here.

[#] Sat Sep 11 2004 17:10:52 EDT from Nite*Star @ Uncensored

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Just a thought IG, but if you do manage to get dry-loop ADSL, get rid of POTS altogether and just go with a mobile-phone? I mean, you may not even need ot get VOIP if you can find a mobile phone plan that would suffice for you....

[#] Sat Sep 11 2004 19:28:52 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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Unless you live in a major city, having a cell phone as your only phone isn't really practical.

[#] Sat Sep 11 2004 19:37:13 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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1. The signal quality at my house is crap.

2. I don't know of any way to hook up a cell phone to my PBX.

[#] Sat Sep 11 2004 19:40:33 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I'd love to drop the telephone part of my telephone line, dedicating it to internet use, and then establish a voip line.

If you spend so much time on the phone that it would always intrude on your bandwith, you need a life.
I saw something in Staples that looked very intriguing for this purpose.
A kind of telephone (with all the standard features) that can be networked, and a voip solution that worked with it (to include 3-way dialing, call waiting, caller-id, and so on). Conceptually, I could get a telephone number local to Charlotte, NC, and anyone I knew there could call me local.

[#] Sat Sep 11 2004 22:30:57 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Most of the consumer VoIP offerings let you select the area code of your virtual phone number. Anywhere they have a POP.

A "networked" phone is kind of interesting ... plug into Ethernet instead of a phone line. Of course, take this to its logical conclusion and you end up with this [ http://tinyurl.com/yr6ks ], a "cordless" VoIP phone that talks through your access point.

[#] Sun Sep 12 2004 05:57:02 EDT from roadkill @ Haven BBS

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[#] Sun Sep 12 2004 08:06:56 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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I wouldn't complain about Verizon so much if they weren't still trying to bill me for 2 T1 lines that A) the billing was supposed to be transitioned to the ISP who took over my business, B) haven't been lit up in 3 years and C) are in a house that I don't even own, anymore.

[#] Sun Sep 12 2004 10:15:19 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Keep in mind that "Verizon" is a merger of several large telcos (some might say "dinosaurs mating") so they can and will be differences between the service in different areas.

[#] Sun Sep 12 2004 11:52:56 EDT from IO ERROR @ Iowa City

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Yes, there are differences in the service areas, but as Verizon integrates all the various business units, the service will become uniformly bad.

[#] Sun Sep 12 2004 13:14:26 EDT from Sig @ PixelBBS

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Well, that's a relief.

[#] Sun Sep 12 2004 21:03:42 EDT from IO ERROR @ Iowa City

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Not if you live outside New York and New England. From your perspective, the service will get worse than it already is.

[#] Sun Sep 12 2004 21:46:47 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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For the time being, I'm going to be optimistic and assume that competitive pressure from the cable company will force Verizon to keep improving its DSL network.

[#] Mon Sep 13 2004 23:18:29 EDT from nadia @ Uncensored

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speaking of verizon (sorry, let's just pretend for a minute that this is the "verizone bashing" room, right?) they haven't sent me phone bills for the past 2 months. that's not to say that i haven't paid my bill, last month i fortunately noticed the day before i left for the east coast and checked it out and paid it online. but this month? still no bill a week before the suspected due date.

the first time i would blame the post office, but the second month in a row?

[#] Tue Sep 14 2004 12:58:43 EDT from Campagnolo @ MCM Groups

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Verizon cell service likes to either send my bills to my last address, or send them to me days before it's due.  I get the e-mails to tell me when the bill is available, but I don't see the paper copy for weeks.  They suck.

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