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[#] Sat Oct 29 2005 01:11:33 EDT from Animal @ Uncensored

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Denver went to ten-digit dialing about 8 years ago, shortly after the 303/720 area code merge.

It's kind of crazy. 303 and 720 are billed as local calls, to/from each AC. Calls within each area code are local.
Wyoming has one area code, 307, yet calls outside of the region (usually county) are long-distance.
I like my 307 number and don't want to change it. Verizon doesn't want me to change either, since they want me to pay close to $100 to change to a 303 number. And $3/mo for an 800 number to keep people from bitching about having to pay for long distance makes it worth it. My monthly phone bill is under $20 for both a 307 and an 800 number.

I'm still kind of curious to see how a 911 call would route from my phone though.

[#] Sat Oct 29 2005 01:20:44 EDT from harry @ Uncensored

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Can't your VoIP provider TELL you how they should handle it?

But what they TELL you will happen and what ACTUALLY happens can, of course, be two different things.

Here in Seattle I have Comcast Digital Telephone service. We happened to have to call 911 a couple of times. Each time the 911 operator said something like "You just dialed 911 and you're in Sea-Tac and you got HERE?
" like I had gotten the WRONG 911 operator? and then she re-routed me to a SECOND 911 operator.

So after this happened TWICE, both times exactly the same, I got really suspicious that Comcast had somehow F'ed up my 911 connections and so I called Comcast and bitched about it.

They said "We'll open up a ticket and check it out". Long story short, they fixed the routing bug at their end.

But it just goes to show you that getting what you REALLY WANTED at the 911 end of things is NOT guaranteed, no mater what they tell you it will do.


[#] Sat Oct 29 2005 01:25:18 EDT from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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Well, to be fair, when 911 service was first created, it was a pretty much straightforward mapping since each exchange served a specific geographic area.

[#] Sat Oct 29 2005 01:30:28 EDT from harry @ Uncensored

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Yeah, but VoIP is so NOT geographically-oriented. And here in the Seattle area, Comcast Digital Phone service basically IS VoIP, I believe, in it's actual implementation.

The bottom line is: At least you should ASK your VoIP provider what they do to properly route 911 calls so that you get the RIGHT 911 operator the FIRST time.

Just my 2 cents worth.

soapbox mode off.


[#] Fri Nov 04 2005 23:00:19 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Satellite has a very high coolness factor, and even some good bandwidth, but the latency is terrible. It's particularly painful if you're using a chatty protocol like SSH or Telnet.

[#] Sat Nov 05 2005 00:27:34 EST from Animal @ Uncensored

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I know it's not the same DSL
I did get DSL downloaded/burned/working, even on my Mac. I have a computer at work that needs some TLC, I'm hoping some of the tools on here can do what windows cannot.

[#] Sat Nov 05 2005 01:01:03 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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It's a great little cd. Very useful.

[#] Sat Nov 05 2005 20:16:30 EST from IO ERROR @ Uncensored

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I have seen the light. Now getting 4.5Mbits down and 832K up on DSL for $45 a month.

[#] Sat Nov 05 2005 20:21:51 EST from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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Nice. I envy.

[#] Sat Nov 05 2005 22:14:20 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Cheap bandwidth is a wonderful thing.

[#] Sun Nov 06 2005 01:39:21 EST from IO ERROR @ Uncensored

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Currently synced at 4672 / 800 Kbps.

[#] Sun Nov 06 2005 07:13:17 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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I just had a dumb thought.
sbc is doing deals with dishtv so they can sell video.
hmmm... I guess I'm lost or I shot down my own argument.
are they going to push satellite over the fiber (what's the point) or are they going to resell dish (telco getting into tv business? seems odd)
something not making sense to me here.

[#] Sun Nov 06 2005 08:35:57 EST from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Both...They'll continue to push Dish where they haven't gotten Lightspeed going, yet (if ever), and will push the IPTV stuff where it is.

[#] Sun Nov 06 2005 09:26:14 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Dish Network seems to like partnering with ISP's. I recently found out that I can get $10/month off my DSL if I sign up for Dish. I really like DirecTV, though, so it's a tough choice.

As for pushing satellite TV over the fiber ... the infrastructure supports it, so why not? In that case, they'd just be buying the channels wholesale from Dish Network so they wouldn't have to spend zillions of dollars to build and operate a broadcast center.

[#] Sun Nov 06 2005 11:24:29 EST from Ladyhawke @ Uncensored

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so does DirectTV, who is partnered with Verizon...

[#] Sun Nov 06 2005 18:04:58 EST from harry @ God-Empresses Domain

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It's not DSL, but it is broadband.

I have Comcast Cable here at my house in Seattle. They provide (1) TV cable, (2) my ISP via CableModem, and (3) Digital Telephone service (basically VoIP).

I know their tech support telephone number by heart, but I prefer dealing with their customer tech support people to the alternative provider in my area - Qwest. Qwest telephone tech support people bring new meanings to "dis-service".

[#] Sun Nov 06 2005 19:26:45 EST from Ian M. Shot @ Haven BBS

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We put the Cuss in Customer service?

[#] Mon Nov 07 2005 00:44:05 EST from Animal @ Uncensored

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wow, i've had Qwest DSL for a while now and I'm happy with them. When the dsl modem craps out (mine's about to, i bet it's only got another month or two in it), they ship a new one to me OVERNIGHT and it's got a pre-paid return box for the old one. Though they still haven't gotten my last name spelled right, i've called them a few times about that one.

[#] Mon Nov 07 2005 16:38:19 EST from harrysp @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Ian - Yes, Qweest definitely puts the CUSS in Customer service, at least for me. Their depths of incompetence, at least in my experience, have been totally incomprehensible.

[#] Mon Nov 07 2005 16:40:10 EST from harrysp @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Animal - Your is a case in point. What kind of business cannot even get the customer's name spelled right ?? Especially if you have TOLD THEM the correct spelling more than once ??

That is just ONE example of their incompetence.

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