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[#] Sun Aug 28 2005 23:26:38 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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The government or an operator appointed by the government.

[#] Mon Aug 29 2005 00:39:57 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Too late.

[#] Mon Aug 29 2005 08:35:34 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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That's kinda the point. The fact that we're way too far into the game to move the lines of the Bell System breakup, is justification for continuing to restrict the behavior of ILEC's, particularly where the provisioning of wholesale services to CLEC's is involved.

[#] Mon Aug 29 2005 15:08:42 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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The thing is that the CLECs have had decades, now, to look into and begin building out their own infrastructures, while they rode the infrastructures of the ILECs, at way lower prices than what it costs to maintain the networks that they use.

Not all of the poles are owned by telcos...a great many of them are owned by power, others by cable operators.  Everybody winds up renting space on other company's poles, so that's not a valid argument.

[#] Wed Aug 31 2005 19:04:32 EDT from "sales" <> to

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Dear Customer,

We are excited to welcome the new school year with a number of new services
and initiatives. First of all, we would like to officially introduce
AceVoice - an affordable, high-quality Voice over IP service for residential

"Why go with AceVoice?" - The choice is clear. It gives you the same
quality and reliability that our business customers enjoy with AcePBX, our
business grade VoIP solution. Moreover, you, as an AceDSL customer, are
directly connected to us as your VoIP provider. That gives you an even
higher degree of reliability. And, all existing AceDSL subscribers can get
$5 off the already low rate of $29.95 for unlimited calling in the US and

"But don't I still have to pay Verizon for the phone line?" - Here comes
the best part... you no longer have to maintain your phone service with
Verizon in order to keep using AceDSL!

preserve your DSL is to port (transfer) your telephone number to Acecape.
Even if you have no use for your landline number, we can "park" your number
for free; or, you can use it with any one of the AceVoice plans. Our sales
and support representatives can guide you through this somewhat tricky but a
very rewarding process.

Finally, to complement our Broadband and VoIP offerings, we are excited to
announce that Acecape has become an authorized Dish Network reseller.

"Why order Dish through Ace?" - You get an instant $10 off your AceDSL
monthly fee! It will stay that way for as long as you maintain your Dish
Network subscription. That's a $120/year savings, which can certainly come
in handy.

We are looking forward to hear from you and discuss these and other options.
You may either respond to this e-mail or call us at 877-223-3754 option 3.

The Acecape Team

[#] Wed Aug 31 2005 23:07:55 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Isn't that cool? It appears that they're ready to sell "Naked DSL." I may still wait a month or two for the inevitable rush of orders to be processed, and for them to work the bugs out of the system. Then I'll have them bump up my bandwidth and move my phone number to their Asterisk server.

It'll be the next best thing to having fiber.

[#] Thu Sep 01 2005 07:46:07 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Man, I'd love to do that.

[#] Thu Sep 01 2005 12:31:40 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Ok, for the time being I'm going to attempt to upgrade my DSL service to 1600/384 (for $10 more) so when I'm ready to move the voice service to VoIP, the bandwidth will be there for it. And when nobody is on the phone, that bandwidth will be available for the BBS. :)

[#] Thu Sep 01 2005 12:34:52 EDT from wizard of aahz @ Uncensored

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Does that mean if someone is talking really fast or really loud on the phone that there will be less available for the BBS?

[#] Thu Sep 01 2005 12:50:36 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Call me and I'll give you the answer to that question.

[#] Fri Sep 02 2005 10:48:54 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Don't trust the phone company. Be very careful (and I know you know this already, I guess this is just a rant) if you call up and ask for an account balance you may very well lose your DSL.
tread carefully lest they break something.

[#] Fri Sep 02 2005 11:01:13 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Hmm... the Acecape customer care portal says that my 1600/384 service is now active.  I've got to find some way to test it.

[#] Fri Sep 02 2005 12:05:25 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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You could download porn.

[#] Fri Sep 02 2005 13:41:28 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I don't care about download speed; as you know, upload speed is more important for me because I run a server.

I did an FTP transfer from uncnsrd to a well-connected external host, and I got about 45KB/sec. So I think the new speed is good.

[#] Fri Sep 02 2005 16:33:21 EDT from 2Dog @ Uncensored

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So, completely appearing naive here,

When we finalize the move to another small town (Mason) which has no
cable broadband, but does have a DSL service provided, (and I understand all the
factors that might come into play such as the local infrastructure of the phone lines
themselves) will I be able to expect as fast as (or maybe even better) connect speeds
than I currently get using cable?

[#] Fri Sep 02 2005 16:42:21 EDT from 2Dog @ Uncensored

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(The only reason I'm asking is because I've never used DSL before. I went from dial-up directly to cable.)

[#] Fri Sep 02 2005 17:10:31 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Well, more than likely, no. While DSL providers will tell you that you might get up to 4meg/s, if you're close enough to the CO, or the RT, if there's fiber to the RT, you'll probably get 1.5mb. It is possible to get faster, but that'll depend on the provider, what you're paying, etc.

[#] Mon Sep 19 2005 14:58:48 EDT from 2Dog @ Uncensored

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Greetings from "The Mug & More" in beautiful, sweltering, downtown Mason. Pretty cool coffee shop for a small town. Even has wireless access, but I'm not gonna lug the G4 down here. We won't have our DSL for another few weeks. We're gonna go ahead and have Verizon come out and install it because we want some drops in rooms that don't currently have them. It's something that I have the wherewithall and knowhow to do but their installation fee up here is quite reasonable. Well, bye for now. I brought my swimming trunks with me so I'm headed over to the pool now.

[#] Mon Sep 19 2005 15:18:31 EDT from Ladyhawke @ Uncensored

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Welcome back, Dawg!!

[#] Tue Sep 20 2005 16:03:27 EDT from 2Dog @ Uncensored

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Thankee Lady! :)

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