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[#] Wed Aug 17 2005 17:46:58 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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No...they're right...fiber isn't regulated.  What that means is that Verizon doesn't have to provide competing services/providers with  access to their fiber.

[#] Thu Aug 18 2005 10:38:15 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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but it never *was* regulated, so why are they disabling the service now?

[#] Thu Aug 18 2005 10:56:32 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Faulte d'argent.

(Lack of money)

[#] Thu Aug 18 2005 11:12:46 EDT from IO ERROR @ Uncensored

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In Australia, Telstra is being split into retail and wholesale companies. The wholesale company will have to sell infrastructure to the retail company, and any other company that wants to buy.

[#] Thu Aug 18 2005 11:58:34 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Which is exactly how it ought to be everywhere.

[#] Fri Aug 19 2005 02:11:02 EDT from 2Dog @ Uncensored

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(I guess I'll have to endure some of the same shortly)

Wheeeee!!! A large hammer and a very low tolerance for bullshit from utilities/phone is *all I need*. :)

[#] Fri Aug 19 2005 02:14:00 EDT from 2Dog @ Uncensored

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Then again that is in response to a post int the "1-20" range so I am a little off there. Aren't I always? ;^)

[#] Fri Aug 19 2005 08:23:30 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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It's ok, as long as you're just a consumer (i.e. you don't need static IP and you don't run any servers) it shouldn't be difficult to get decent service.

[#] Mon Aug 22 2005 14:35:33 EDT from "nixo" <> to

Subject: [Fwd: AceFiber: UPDATED information]

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They said something on the phone about they're allowed to keep their
existing customers for the forseeable future, so for now at least I'm okay.
I don't watch TV, and I don't need their TV service (Although wouldn't
verizon be interested to know that the only reason I might not go with
their video service and have to buy cable is BECAUSE of whatever rule
they're imposing.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: AceFiber: UPDATED information
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:20:08 -0400


I left you a voice message, but also wanted to send you an e-mail to be
you receive the updated information regarding AceFiber. For the
future, you will be able to remain an AceFiber customer. You will
retain the
same IP and service. The only stipulation being that you would not be
able to
add Verizon's FIOS TV service that will be coming out at some point in the
future to the line. The two services are not compatible, and you would

Please feel free to call or e-mail if you have any questions.

AceDSL Support

[#] Mon Aug 22 2005 17:09:26 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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That is moronic. I ought to be able to order AceFiber as long as I understand the restriction about not being able to bundle in non-data services.

[#] Mon Aug 22 2005 17:25:40 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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jury's probably still out on that, I may be reading into what she said.
Considering they told me NO last week, and are now saying yes "for the forseeable future" I expect they're still ironing out details.

[#] Mon Aug 22 2005 17:28:51 EDT from IO ERROR @ Uncensored

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Well, there's nothing left to do but for Acecape to offer TV service.

[#] Tue Aug 23 2005 10:14:36 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I'll just sit tight until my neighborhood is wired. When I eventually get the Verizon flyer, I'll call Acecape and see what they're doing.

In the meantime, I just hope that the recent FCC reclassification of DSL as an "information service" and therefore unregulated (like I said before, we have the best government money can buy, and ILEC's have lots of money) doesn't mean that third-party ISP's like Acecape will be booted off the DSL networks as well.

[#] Tue Aug 23 2005 10:32:09 EDT from IO ERROR @ Uncensored

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BellSouth has announced they won't be booting anybody off the DSL networks.

[#] Tue Aug 23 2005 12:21:17 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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it may be the same thing where you're an existing customer so you're grandfathered in but don't you dare change your service.

[#] Tue Aug 23 2005 19:05:49 EDT from 2Dog @ Uncensored

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[Quote from Now Playing! - "so I'm going to assume you were a bit tired and falling asleep at the keyboard. :)"]

Yes, absolutely right; and also after about 6 black russians (kahlua & vodka). I lost count so I can't tell you for sure. ;^)

Everything I posted I meant (and I hereby "un-retract what I retracted!), but I was just trying to emphasize the fact that I
will be switching from broadband cable to broadband DSL in this new town we're moving to. The problem is it may be an estimated 6 (yes SIX)
months before the service is hooked up, finalized, paid for, wired (by me), etc., etc., etc.

What Am I Going To Do Without An Internet Connection During That Time?!?
Aside from the obvious hamperings of work, most of which I have already "worked" out, you must
understand that for me (and a lot of other people as well) accessing the web is just as addictive as
caffeine, nicotine, or even (do I dare say it) heroin. Yes, my condition is that sad. As I am not a coffee
drinker; my computer is my "percolator". In the morning I take care of the 3 "S"s first (s**t, shower & shave
for those of you who have never heard the expression). Then after pulling on my clothes I turn on the Mac
and check all my web news, transguide traffic and weather (ho-hum... gee, the forcast is hot again)
What am I to do without all this during this time? Crap! You mean I'm gonna have to buy a newspaper? :^)

I hope DSL is a good broadband connection as most of you in this room affirm. Because I aint got
no choice up there. BTW: The DSL service is provided by the local branch of Verizon. It'd better work well
or I will go completely nuts! (not that I'm not already) :^)

[#] Tue Aug 23 2005 19:35:25 EDT from 2Dog @ Uncensored

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I'm slightly apprehensive about the whole move, and yet at the same time I can't wait to get up there.
I suppose it's normal to feel this way about a major move...
But at least I know if the DSL service is lousy up there, it's all Aahz's fault.

[#] Tue Aug 23 2005 19:58:36 EDT from 2Dog @ Uncensored

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(oop. after going thru today's mail and reading a letter from verizon, the time frame for connection will be within two weeks of confirmed subscription payment. That's much different than what we were told by a rep over the phone)
(the remaining time for actual getting on line depends on how long I take to wire the house.)
(it's still Aahz's fault)

[#] Tue Aug 23 2005 21:05:04 EDT from wizard of aahz @ Uncensored

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<still calling 2Dog a fucker.>

[#] Tue Aug 23 2005 21:54:59 EDT from 2Dog @ Uncensored

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Yes! Yes! I've finally received my second "fucker" from Aahz. I don't care a bit
if you've been calling me that in private rooms or whatever! :) Now it is public and
I have yet another trophy to place upon the new mantle. "Thanks Aahz... I really worked hard for that." :^)

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