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[#] Tue Sep 23 2014 16:28:01 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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You are aware that there is a whole movie called The Dentist? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116075/

This DMV "service" seems to be a global conspiracy. In Germany, the departments are usually completely overcrowded, on any day, at any time. Normally, you send your mom or any other relative who does not have a regular day job to get the paperwork done for you. In this rather small town where I live now, you only wait half a day to get to the desk. And the guys that press your plate are in direct neighborhood, instead of 1km+ away. But the guy behind the desk is in a bad mood, if you are lucky. He might be bored, overworked and suicidal, if you are not lucky. The insurance guys always make a big fuss that you need to apply weeks in advance for an insurance move, if you plan to unregister your old car and register a new one. When all you have to do is ask them on the phone for a stupid 10 digit code that the clerk has to enter into his computer and Presto! everything will work fine. But both the clerk behind the desk and the insurance person on the phone will make sure that you feel like an utter scumbag full of fowl rodent testicles for this.



[#] Tue Sep 23 2014 21:36:33 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Here in California just about every insurance company is online with the statewide DMV computer. This is so the cops can determine your insurance status during a roadside stop.

The beneficial fallout from that is that when you go to the DMV to renew registration you almost always do *not* need proof of insurance - it's on their computer.

Wait times used to be, on average, about 15 minutes but since the financial impact of the Obama Depression that has grown, significantly, to around an hour. DMV was forced to close/consolidate many of their offices, sending those mini-crowds to the offices still open, resulting in bigger crowds and longer wait times.

However, it still beats the living daylights out of "DMV In New Jersey" which has always been my example of Hell On Earth.

But it still puzzles me why *anyone* would have to actually go to the DMV. Here, at least, just about *everything* can be done online.

[#] Tue Sep 23 2014 23:49:33 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

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In Minnesota, they send the renewal in the mail.  You just have to mail off a check with the included return envelope and they mail it back in about a week.  I think there is a website, but I guess I see that as an overly complicated way to do it.



[#] Wed Sep 24 2014 07:38:50 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Online is getting better now, even for the DMV. I renewed my registration a couple of weeks ago, and for the first time I did it online. They actually put it online a few years ago, but they charged extra for an online transaction.
I guess someone finally figured out how stupid that was.

[#] Wed Sep 24 2014 14:10:26 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Sep 24 2014 4:38am from IGnatius T Foobar @uncnsrd (Uncensored)

Online is getting better now, even for the DMV. I renewed my
registration a couple of weeks ago, and for the first time I did it
online. They actually put it online a few years ago, but they charged

extra for an online transaction.
I guess someone finally figured out how stupid that was.



...or some Citizen threatened to sue them for charging more for something that costs them less. In most governmental jurisdictions, that *is* illegal, even for GovDroids.

[#] Fri Sep 26 2014 10:49:31 EDT from Sig @ Uncensored

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WA state e-mails me every year, about 2 or 3 months out, to let me know that my car is coming due. I authenticate to their page and pay my tabs, choose whether to pick it up or have it mailed (haha, are you kidding?) and it shows up promptly.

Very similar process for my license renewal last time. I still looked like my picture from the previous license (a sign I am getting old, no doubt; 5 years used to involve significant visual evidence of change), so I paid a fee online and was mailed a new license.

I haven't been to the office physically since I bought my '73 Capri and had to re-register it, and I probably could have done that online, too, if I'd been willing to be a little more patient.

[#] Fri Sep 26 2014 14:11:35 EDT from vince-q @ Uncensored

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Sig must be in California....

[#] Sun Sep 28 2014 06:28:29 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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Wait, what, you register your driving license? Not your car?

My driving license (or rather the document itself, not the fact that I have a license) will expire 18. January 2033, for some odd reason. I guess the TZOG will force us to have a biometrically chipped device in order to track the movement of our cars better. From there on, it will expire every 15 years. This means, unless I lose my document, I will have a picture taken in 1999 on my license until 2033. :D

Since we have an administration worshipping the gods of bureaucracy, we have another document which is used as id card, the Personalausweis (invented by the Nazis, ja!) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_identity_card



[#] Sun Sep 28 2014 12:47:35 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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My ex-boss had the old style thick paper type of driver's license, wasn't laminated. I forget how old he said
he was when he got it, but he was young. He renewed it several times by mail or on-line, they just sent him a
sticker to go over the back updating the information. While his physical appearance matured his picture did not
change.

[#] Sun Sep 28 2014 17:00:33 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Since we have an administration worshipping the gods of bureaucracy,

we have another document which is used as id card, the
Personalausweis (invented by the Nazis,
ja!) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_identity_card


Heh. Before moving to California I lived in New Jersey for roughly 30 years.


Back in the very early 1930s, Charles Lindbergh's baby was kidnapped from his home during the evening of Marh 1, 1932. The subsequent investigation was handled by local cops, and soon after headed by the New Jersey State Police.


I mention this for the following:

The head of the NJ state police was Norman Schwarzkopf (father of General Norman Schwarzkopf of 'Desert Storm' fame).

He was, to be polite, the consumate authoritarian.

He is remembered for his handling of the kidnapping, and...

... for commissioning the design of the uniforms worn to this day by NJ State Police troopers and officers. Schwarzkopf personally designed the uniform.

Later on, it turns out that a certain organization in the (now) infamous Third Reich found out that the actual manufacturing of the NJ "StaatsPolizei" uniforms was done by a German company and this group fell in love with the design, adopting it for their own.

That group, originally formed in 1925, is noneother than the ShutzStaffel, now much more commonly known as the SS.

...which is why most residents of New Jersey have this subconscious urge to snap to attention, click our heels, and shout Sieg Heil whenever pulled over by a member of the NJ StaatsPolizei! <very evil grin>

[#] Mon Sep 29 2014 00:45:47 EDT from Sig @ Uncensored

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The same department handles car registration (yearly) and driver licensing (every 5 years). This is WA, as I mentioned.

[#] Mon Sep 29 2014 13:56:41 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Are you still living overseas?

[#] Tue Sep 30 2014 14:33:58 EDT from Shazam @ Uncensored

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Our business is not eligible to renew registrations online. I went back yesterday to renew the same car's registration, with the new insurance card in my hand. They said no. This time it was because they can't renew my registration when my insurance card's start date hadn't come yet. It was dated 10-1-14. Last time they sent me away because my old insurance card ends 10-1-14.
I stayed this time to complain to the supervisior, who told me politely to fuck off. But I was proud of myself that I didn't cry. :-)

[#] Tue Sep 30 2014 21:39:45 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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7th circle, for sure. Along with the telephone sanitizers.

[#] Wed Oct 01 2014 05:26:01 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI5kwSap9Ug

 

Asterix - The Twelve Tasks of Asterix - #8: Find Permit A 38 in "The Place That Sends You Mad"



[#] Thu Oct 02 2014 02:51:01 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Very similar process for my license renewal last time. I still looked

like my picture from the previous license (a sign I am getting old, no

doubt; 5 years used to involve significant visual evidence of change),

so I paid a fee online and was mailed a new license.

Obviously they don't care a whole lot. Here in PRNY I've got a license with a photo taken many years ago as well. I kind of wish I could get it updated ... but not enough to actually go to a DMV.

[#] Fri Nov 07 2014 16:06:13 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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anybody of you know the before-wirtschaftswunder car Messerschmidt?

http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/messerschmitt-fred-zimmermann-baut-den-kabinenroller-nach-fotostrecke-120171.html

Image #7 shows the originals from the 1950'ies

The original has a weight of 250 kg - the electricay assisted new one is 125 kg.



[#] Thu Nov 13 2014 00:54:34 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Not heard of one.  Thought of buying an Isetta once, but decided to live instead :-)



[#] Thu Jan 29 2015 11:49:43 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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so, to calm down road rage...

http://www.ibv.org/en/news/show_new/76/4621

... the cars of the future will limit engine power and play calming music in the not to distant future.



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