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[#] Mon May 14 2012 15:01:10 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Wheels That Burn.

I got to see that, at a family gathering yesterday. An outdoor firepit full of wood and other combustibles, soaked with gasoline, and a gasoline "wick" on the ground leading up to it.


The only problem is that one of the firepit's wheels caught on fire and melted.

And no this wasn't my doing, or even at my house. But of course I participated in the festivities.

[#] Mon Sep 10 2012 16:56:37 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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ok gasheads, have a look at this:

tiniest V12 engine of the world, crafted by a spanish guy (with german tools ;-) in dedication to his grand children.

ok, its running on compressed air... but since its for demonstrational purposes anyways...

[#] Fri Sep 14 2012 09:57:02 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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You know, I've been thinking about "crossovers" lately.

The whole thing is really stupid. Can't the auto industry just admit what we all know is true: people *like* STATION WAGONS. Forget about the whole reputation as an un-cool car thing. Station wagons are mind bogglingly useful and people like to own them.

So forget about all those silly little "it's not really a station wagon" body modifications. Build a station wagon, call it a station wagon, and be proud of it.

[#] Fri Sep 14 2012 13:09:49 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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What's a "crossover"?

Currently I am owning a Golf3 Variant (seems to be unbreakable). While I used to love the Audi station wagon's (especially the RS versions) and the Z3 Coupé as a sports car, I now want a Volvo V70 or XC70. Nothing else. So, yes to the station wagon!

[#] Sat Sep 15 2012 14:15:41 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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but... don't you want a station wagon that uses twice as much gas, has bigger wheels where tires are much more expensive to replace, and less space inside while being bigger on the inside?

don't you want the illusion you're no longer bound to the traffic jam poluted roads because of your car can go anywhere (well, in the places you're going the spaces between roads are filled with houses, but... explore the city limits, right?)


[#] Sat Sep 15 2012 15:22:15 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

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Gas here is roughly $8 a gallon (seriously. 8 US dollars per gallon!)

A family with three kids will generally have a car that is considered compact in the US (Toyota Corolla, Honda Civic, Ford Focus, Mazda 323). Here, that's called a 'family car' because if you buy the right type of seats, you can seat 3 kids in the back.

People with four kids buy station wagons that seat 6-7. There's a kind of... thing about having your fourth kid, because it means you need to move to a more expensive class of vehicle. 

Minivans are rare, despite the number of families that have 4+ kids. 

It's also common for families to have 1 car.

[#] Sat Sep 15 2012 16:48:08 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Does gasoline cost the equivalent of $8/gal there because of heavy taxation, or because it is being sold into the country by hostile neighbors, or something else?  

[#] Sun Sep 16 2012 02:02:44 EDT from the8088er @ Uncensored

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I quite enjoy my little fuel-sipper daily driver of a 1990 Ford Escort Wagon. I also enjoy my Grand Caravan for different reasons. A bigger wagon would be a nice compromise between the two but there is indeed not a lot to choose from. I have a Saturn Vue of the first generation (boxy and somewhat tall) and I find that it's infinitely more useful than the poorly-thought out crossovers becasue the floor to ceiling height is generous, the interior space is not overly larger than the back door opening (what good is a spacious cargo area if you can't fit an object through the door opening?) and the back door is not shaped in such a way that everything you load wants to explode out the back glass. It gets around 25 mpg on the highway too! I like that car but there's not much like it that I've seen for sale lately. I've moved small spinet Hammond organs in the back of the Vue and I don't think there is any way you could fit one of those in a Rogue or Murano or whatever other garish CUV is out there. Less utility, less attractive... I agree. What are the advantages and why do people keep buying those things?

[#] Sun Sep 16 2012 04:42:39 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

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Sat Sep 15 2012 16:48:08 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Does gasoline cost the equivalent of $8/gal there because of heavy taxation, or because it is being sold into the country by hostile neighbors, or something else?  

Taxes. Though I just found out one reason why cars are so heavily taxed. There are apparently no scrap metal yards in Israel, so all cars are moved away (and we're functionally an island b/c our neighbors on all sides are unfriendly...) by boat. This is paid for by taxes on purchase price.

[#] Sun Sep 16 2012 08:08:13 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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I guess there isn't as much problems with rust there in the south, so the car body survives many parts from the engine compartments?

I guess its diy repair which keeps the jung yards alive over here ;-)

and yes, sedans sell traditionaly worse in germany - station wagons or people cariers are just to usefull.

otoh, you have these "lifestyle" station wagons i.e. from bmw, where you have to lift stuff 15 cm to get it out of the trunk... useless.

suvs & crossovers gain ground next to cars with realy big engines - mostly through company owned cars which have some fancy grants that make them more "affordeable"

[#] Mon Sep 17 2012 03:42:18 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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Wikipedia told me what these crossovers are... fugly as hell. I'd appreciate some 4wd capacity in some situations (e.g. not getting stuck on the beach of Römö), but if I really wanted a cross country car, I'd choose some Land Rover style thing. Which is not really stylish but hell of a versatile thing. My uncle owned two of these. They are the opposite of comfortable, but they really get shit down. (wrt loading capacity, backdoors could be completely opened, interior was just two benches on the sides, etc.) But this was in a time when fuel wasn't expensive...

[#] Mon Sep 17 2012 07:14:36 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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yea, for most people a 2+2 drive would be good, where you have some electric motors the size of the starter being able to power the rear weels for a minute or so...


[#] Mon Sep 17 2012 15:08:06 EDT from the8088er @ Uncensored

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Heh. I have a frontw wheel drive SUV and a buddy and I are trying to develop a system like you describe for both partial 4WD (electrical assist) and EV mode up to around 35 MPH.

[#] Mon Sep 17 2012 16:09:50 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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my parents bought a used Renaul 18 4x4 by... well... it was very cheap since it had been idling over at a VW distributor for more than 2 years.

You could lift a lever next to the gear stick, then it would engage the rear wheels.

in its lifetime we used that about a dozend times: when trying to get out of a wet muddy parking lot, one time when going over a snowy highway, or when skidding over a snowy hayfield to have fun and test the difference.

I guess its existance wasted lots of gas. and except for the fun part on the hayfield that 2+2 would have been more than enough.

[#] Mon Sep 17 2012 16:33:40 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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That's sad :( If there's one thing I know about VWs, it's that you
change the timing belt and water pump every 60k miles or bad things
happen, heh.

except that it had a chain that was supposed to last 200k miles.

[#] Tue Sep 18 2012 12:15:52 EDT from the8088er @ Uncensored

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Have they finally gotten away from belts on the newer ones?

VWs also have the most bizarre cam timing procedure I've ever seen. You find TDC on teh cranhe crankshaft, and you block the cam in place with a special tool.

[#] Tue Sep 18 2012 14:36:16 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

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My parents have a '99 Toyota Corolla, which they drive 6 days a week, and out of the city 1-2 times a week. They service regularly at the dealership. Other than when the battery died (after 3 weeks of being left alone), it hasn't left them stuck ever. I mean someone bashed the door and it had to go to the shop, and the trunk leaks a little, and obviously the tires have been changed, but it's still a reliable car.

So yeah, our climate seems to eat up cars less badly than the northern climates.

[#] Sun Sep 23 2012 23:51:53 EDT from Animal @ Uncensored

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My 4x4 turned into a 3x3.

Sounded like a U-joint had busted loose. When the rattling came through
the steering wheel, I slowed down... when I hit about 40 (from 55) the
tire careened off into some guy's front yard.

Jacked it up and put the spare on, took some lug nuts of the other
wheels to get it back on the road... limped to a buddy's machine shop 2
miles away and pressed in some new studs on that hub.

Rim's fucked. U-joints fucked. Bearings fucked. Rotor's fucked.

Shop quoted $580-ish. He's had it since thursday morning.

Wednesday was the first or second time i've driven the truck since
asshole neighbors moved out. The fact that I had the tires rotated and
I checked/retorqued the lugs about two months ago leads me to believe
this didn't "just happen accidentally".

Motorcycles > trucks.

[#] Tue Sep 25 2012 16:56:40 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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I advice you to buy the most powerful film projector you can get hold on, find out were they are living now and continue the pr0n/animal dissection movies & gun cleaning routine in front of their new home.

Also I am sorry about the car, but remember that you still have three wheels on a car if one goes AWOL, on a bycicle this situation easily gets more ugly.

[#] Mon Oct 01 2012 13:11:23 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

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Nothing wrong with a unicycle.

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