donno. my sis has 4 kids, no minivan.
my brother has 4 kids, no minivan.
they have station wagons.
oldest brother has a van.
doesn't give him much cargo room. but he's got 6 kids, so short of a bus, there's gonna be a cargo room issue
plus, we were 5 kids, and we had a station wagon. when we went on vacations we used a car-top-carrier thing. rest of the time, we managed okay.
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Seat _is_ a Fiat, made in Spain.
I rather thought it was a VW made in spain. Certainly didn't act, feel or drive like a fiat.
Certainly did act feel and drive like a VW.
Stroller, check. Blankie, pillow, check. Our stuff, check.
Now as they get older it gets to be less, sort of. Clothes for all, check.
Second sets for child, check. Bike, check. A few toys for rainy days inside, check.
Ford: Dunno how much Seat has diverged from Fiat over the years but at one time Seat was either wholely owned or were the major partner in Seat. This was back about 20 years ago when Fiat was on an expansion kick opening huge plants in both Spain and Russia.
I like the minivan. It's way easy to get Noodle in and out of the thing. I like feeling UP over everything so I can see everything around me (maybe 'cause I'm short). And I do end up toting lots of stuff and kids and adults. We go places with other families and it's nice to be able to stick everyone int he minivan and go w/o being squished into a vehicle like a sardine.
They are also some of the safest vehicles on the road. A big plus when you have IDIOTS IN SUVS everywhere.
I, personally, have no problems driving or parking (including parallel parking) my minivan damned near anywhere. Maybe I can't fit it into the same places Mr Bean and cram his car into, but I can and do park it in any normal parking space.
Just 'cause YOU can't drive, don't diss my minivan!
Girthta, I'm with you on that one. I could put that Caravan *anywhere* it could physically fit. Damn sure awed some people with my parking lot manuevers; and never a scratch on mine or anyone elses'. (Personally I think Rowan Atkisson was studying *me*) :^)
Minivan drivers suck, but they're marginally less sucky than SUV drivers.
There's no doubt that American cars pretty much sucked from the mid-70's through the 80's. But starting in the early 90's they really started to make a comeback.
As I said, the last few American cars I've had have been great. No problems at all. Great fit and finish, no rattles, etc.
And don't count GM out so quick.... They control 26% of the automobile market.
They are the largest selling car company in the world. In every market they're in, they are number one. Even China. The most popular foreign car in China is made by Buick.
I do think that GM hasn't done a great job with the low end vehicles and all but given the market to the Japanese.... But once you get over $25k, they're certainly competitive.
Hee, maybe so in general, but I could still park better than you do. "How 'bout it Girthta, wanna do a demo-derby with Ygorl?" :^)
(said in good fun only, of course) :)
Parking is one of the very least important aspects of driving, so I've never placed all that much emphasis on it.
How about we make the contest interesting and see who's better at weaving through four lanes of bumper-to-bumper traffic at 85 MPH?
Sucking on the highway makes anyone a bad driver.
girthta: All the more reason to get out of my way!
And don't count GM out so quick.... They control 26% of the
automobile market. They are the largest selling car company in the
actaully I thought I heard that this year toyota outsold gm, but don't quote me on that.
How about we make the contest interesting and see who's better at
weaving through four lanes of bumper-to-bumper traffic at 85 MPH?