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[#] Wed Jan 08 2014 13:03:11 EST from wizard of aahz @ Uncensored

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Methinks we might be slightly curious about your parenting methods.

[#] Wed Jan 08 2014 17:23:27 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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As many of you know, I live in a condominium.

Not all condominiums have people living in them. Some homes are vacant, with only a faceless corporate presence to maintain any semblance of ownership.

And when this happens, sometimes they ignore information from the condominium association to turn off the water to the unit (which is only controlled by the unit owner) before leaving the home vacant.

And when *that* happens, and you have a nasty cold spell like we have had lately, pipes burst, leaving four floors covered in water.

Fortunately, I was home when this happened on the top floor unit above me, and managed to get a hold of our property manager to stop it before all of our homes were completely soaked. Unfortunately, I'm the bottom unit, so by the time I found out, it was a tad late for all the homes above me.

My upstairs neighbor's mattress will need to be replaced. And I have no idea what kind of water damage we're going to have to handle moving forward. The water got into the vents, making me a tad worried about mildew and mold. My carpet is saturated with water in places, but I think they'll dry out okay.

Very nasty, but better than a fire.

[#] Thu Jan 09 2014 10:09:17 EST from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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If you live in a concrete building, you will now need people ripping out all wet carpets, drilling holes in the floors and using huge blowing dryers which make a whole lot of noise to suck the moistness out of the building. Theoretically, this is easier in winter, since cold air is drier than warm air. But opening windows and freezing the building is not really nice either.

My parents had those machines for a few weeks in their basement, when they discovered that a broken pipe had leaked into the walls for quite a while. Also, tell your insurances about the incident, show them every wet spot. If you find mold in half a year, you need to be able to prove them that it comes from this incident.

[#] Thu Jan 09 2014 11:35:33 EST from Shazam @ Uncensored

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That's way better advice than I was thinking, which was to get a dehumidifyer to dry the air even more and encourage more dryness in general. That's pretty smart, the_mgt. Mold can be a real and serious issue, and since it takes time to develope, you (fleeb) might have to be the one to follow through to make sure it is being addressed.

[#] Thu Jan 09 2014 13:56:40 EST from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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Those consumergrade dehumidifiers might be ok for a small moisture problem, but not for serious damages to the building. I use one in a cellar and it produces about 6 Liters of water during 24h. You want to get rid of 60L in 12h or even more.

Think of large and loud machines, the size of a fridge. The holes in the ground are made so they can better dry the floors. Also, think about the energy consumption, you do not want to pay that yourself. 

[#] Thu Jan 09 2014 18:27:13 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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We have a commercial-grade dehumidifier here at the moment.

Some folks came by with a shop-vac to get most of it out of the carpeting (where it was particularly bad).

An assessor advised me to remove the ceiling where we saw the water damage and replace all of it (even if it wasn't affected). Not because the non-affected part needs replacing, but because it's easier on labor, and may actually save a little bit of money, since drywall itself isn't that expensive.

I'm unsure about the carpeting itself. I doubt we'll have any problems with the newer carpeting in the computer room that was compromised, but I am concerned about the old carpeting in the living room. I need to replace it anyway, but after this incidence, I'm concerned it'll be more of a problem down the road.

I'm also a tad concerned about the utility room, where the bulk of the water ran down. He didn't mention it at all, but I might need to address it as well.

In any event, the guy on the third floor is going to have hell to pay. With me, they'll get off pretty easy. My neighbor upstairs, though, will probably kill him financially. He suffered a lot of damage.

[#] Fri Jan 10 2014 03:32:36 EST from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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I hope you do not have to pay for all of that. Wishing you luck.

Also, you should rather do more than leave something untouched, people I know from Kindergarten have shut half of their house down. Their floor in those parts is full of mold and insurance wont pay for it, since it rotted rather late and those are the rooms next to those rooms where the original damage occurred.

[#] Fri Jan 10 2014 09:39:08 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Surely there is some solid wood in there, but the two primary ass
supports were split in half and the beam between them had snapped as


+100 to you for using the phrase "primary ass supports" as a technical term.

[#] Fri Jan 10 2014 15:24:08 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Not having to pay for any of this. The third-floor condominium will foot this bill (unwillingly), either through insurance or otherwise, or some combination of the two.

[#] Mon Jan 13 2014 13:03:53 EST from wizard of aahz @ Uncensored

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Life Lesson - live ont he top floor and make certain there's an elevator!

[#] Mon Jan 13 2014 15:31:33 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Ah, but the top floor guy will have to pay for all the damages to everyone below him.

Hard call, really.

[#] Sat Jan 18 2014 16:06:57 EST from triLcat @ Uncensored

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better life lesson - If you're going to be out of your house for a while, turn off your water.


[#] Sat Jan 18 2014 17:08:53 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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the handle of my thing broke off recently... currently waiting to get a replacement...

[#] Mon Jan 20 2014 16:01:14 EST from Shazam @ Uncensored

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handle of what thing?

[#] Fri Jan 24 2014 09:12:56 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Dear lazyweb:

What is this base underneath the tiles? I need to extend the tiles out a little more and so I need to build the correct base underneath.

[ If you can't see the photo go to ]


[#] Fri Jan 31 2014 07:53:36 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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We found out yesterday that the house we wanted to buy is now in contract to be sold to someone else.  Unable to unload the Mouse House in time, we've lost another one.  This is getting very frustrating.

The new punch list:

  • Refinish the floors -- pulling up the carpet on the 1st floor revealed old but decent hardwood floors
  • New tile around the fireplace (see previous post -- there is exposed concrete that needs covering)
  • Replace the toilet (wife cracked the tank lid and a replacement costs as much as a new can)
  • New carpet on the second floor
  • Paint everything
  • Finally get rid of the stump in the front yard

Hopefully that will be all ... I've gotta get out of this place before mortgage rates go up to the point where I can't afford to move


[#] Wed Feb 19 2014 00:57:44 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Speaking of mouse house... What do you do when you find one in the basement.  Not sure how they got it.  Is "professional help" the only way to find out how they are getting in?

[#] Wed Feb 19 2014 07:30:19 EST from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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Wed Feb 19 2014 00:57:44 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: arrgh

Speaking of mouse house... What do you do when you find one in the basement.  Not sure how they got it.  Is "professional help" the only way to find out how they are getting in?

One is none. Get some trap and try to catch it. Clean up and see if everything is calm, I'd say.

There is some sort of poison, too, but then you need to find the corpse.

[#] Wed Feb 19 2014 08:10:33 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Actually, the Mouse House has a couple of places where a mouse can move between the basement and the first floor (pass throughs for various pipes, etc) so we've seen them in the kitchen from time to time.

However they do not last long because the Mouse House also has cats.

We have a partial basement. About half of the house is built over crawlspace with dirt underneath, so I would imagine they simply burrow in. I could be wrong.

[#] Wed Feb 19 2014 18:23:59 EST from wizard of aahz @ Uncensored

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And sometimes the dead mice are moved to Boo-Boo's pillow.

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