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[#] Tue Mar 23 2010 21:14:50 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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my chainsaw has replaced my framing nailer as my favorite power tool after last week.
two trees came down on my property after last week's two storms and I had no end of fun cutting them up
then I went to my in laws and started cuttung up their trees.
Then the chain popped off the bar and the chain guide got chewed up and that was that, bt it was fun while it lasted.

[#] Tue Mar 23 2010 21:16:34 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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[#] Tue Mar 23 2010 23:55:23 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Yowza. Glad to hear the chainsaw is working properly now.

No trees down in my yard, but I had to help my dad cut up a tree that fell in front of their house. My chainsaw works and his doesn't :)

[#] Wed Mar 24 2010 08:58:00 EDT from wizard of aahz @ Uncensored

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then I went to my in laws and started cuttung up their trees.

One hopes your in laws trees had fallen and were on the ground and it wasn't just you cutting down random trees on their property.

[#] Wed Mar 24 2010 22:48:45 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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no no no, I actually like my in laws.

[#] Thu Mar 25 2010 02:39:44 EDT from Animal @ Uncensored

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hueg image is huegggggggggg

[#] Thu Mar 25 2010 09:10:15 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

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Wed Mar 24 2010 10:48:45 PM EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored
no no no, I actually like my in laws.

But the chainsaw.... it would be fun to cut down random trees, no?

[#] Thu Mar 25 2010 10:54:03 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Kind of like Carlo Gesualdo. Who, frankly, was a little nuts.

[#] Fri Mar 26 2010 19:45:56 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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no no no, I actually like my in laws.

Second that. I like Ford's inlaws too.

[#] Mon Apr 05 2010 03:40:20 EDT from arabella @ Uncensored

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How happy do you think Al will be now?


More pics of Project kitchen here:


It's an album at facebook.

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[#] Mon Apr 05 2010 07:41:26 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Al will be very upset to see that you've installed 240 volt outlets, which by simple math obviously produce twice as much CO2 as the 120 volt outlets we use here in the USA. :)

Very nice cabinet installation, though. The backsplash is particularly nice.

[#] Mon Apr 05 2010 09:39:59 EDT from arabella @ Uncensored

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We use 220V here it's standard ;-)


David tiled, I grouted, and helped him with the cupboards.


I'm very pleased with it all, and the flooring guy comes on Friday.

[#] Mon Apr 05 2010 17:07:08 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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last time i've checked its been 230V over here in europe.

its been 220 till the late 70'ies or so?

and, since its the resistence controlling where you loose energy (which is the reason why overlan lines run 16 kV), having higher ac currency on the line actualy saves energy.

otoh, higher currency offers plenty of other ways to waste energy like by converting it into heat, elecrical radiators and shit.

[#] Mon Apr 05 2010 18:35:55 EDT from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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dothebart: A while back there was this thing called harmonisation which was an effort to get everyone in EU using the same voltage, that is to say, 230V.
But what they actually did was to widen the tolerance such that all the voltages that were already in use in various countries would meet the specification without anyone having to make any changes if they didn't want to. So it's kinda lame.

As far as saving power.. you are confusing current and voltage. The reason higher voltage saves power, is because loss is directly proportional to the amount of current (amps) through the wire. Not to the voltage applied to the wire. But the power delivered is amps x volts = watts. For example 120V x 10A = 1200W of power, 240V x 5A = 1200W of power. Same power, half the current. Now lets calculate the loss. Lets say a certain length of wire has a resistance of 1 Ohm. You can calculate power using Watts = Amps squared x Ohms. So 100 watts of heat is dissapated in the wire. But if you double the voltage to 240 volts, you only have 5 amps going through the wire.. So only 25 watts loss through the same wire.
So how do you overcome loss at the lower voltage? You lower the resistance.. by using a thicker wire. More copper, more expensive. So, the higher voltage allows less loss in the same wire, or the same loss but with a thinner wire using less copper. The reason the USA is on the voltage it is on is very simply because when the first public power systems were developed here (by Edison), 110 volts was the perfect voltage for the electric light bulbs. Also because it was felt that 110 volts was a relatively safe voltage, which in those days of exposed wiring, or very poorly insulated wiring (no plastics), and exposed switches.. was a major consideration. But history has shown that a higher voltage would have been a better choice.

[#] Mon Apr 05 2010 22:35:12 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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I know little of this voltage stuff, but it seems to me higher voltage just makes for better chances of arcing and shorting, which is why all the plugs in europe are fucking huge, and for some reason terribly ugly.
Seems to me as bad as our wall warts are, europe's got it worse.

Speaking of, since we have all of our electric knowledgeable people here.
Every gizmo on the planet either runs DC or a voltage other than 110 so it requires a transformer of some kind.
but then you get these usb chargers that obviously ramp down the outlet power to something miniscule without a transformer. How do they do it?

[#] Mon Apr 05 2010 23:54:22 EDT from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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They are probably using a switching regulator, which is a circuit that chops the waveform at high speed. The duty cycle of the chopped waveform is varied to regulate the voltage. Oh, I should mention that they use a capacitor and probably an inductor as a low pass filter to smooth the waveform into steady DC.

[#] Tue Apr 06 2010 00:08:13 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

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yeah. our plugs are ugly. so what?

[#] Tue Apr 06 2010 00:43:59 EDT from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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And your mother dresses you funny.

[#] Tue Apr 06 2010 08:03:57 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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yea, learned all that stuff too ;-) (just not all the english vocabulary) plus its been a while since then...

Bigger plugs just if you have a device which needs the safety wire, because of its working in wet areas or has a metal housing or exceeds a certain amount of power consumtion.

I like the cylindric plugs better from the flat ones ;-)

[#] Tue Apr 06 2010 16:00:07 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Cylindric plugs? Are you referring to CEE 7/4 (Schuko) type plugs? The grounding clips on the sides are rather interesting.

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