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[#] Sat Aug 02 2008 16:45:55 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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And as an aside, it is impossible for anybody to be incompetent if there's a con ed employee nearby.

[#] Sat Aug 02 2008 19:24:02 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I did put some extra oil in the reservoir. I keep chainsaw oil on hand even though I don't own a chainsaw -- I find it to be a versatile weight and viscosity for a lot of different uses.

[#] Sun Aug 03 2008 09:42:37 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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Funny, I keep Mobil 1 around for the same reason.... It works on everything.

[#] Mon Aug 04 2008 22:18:19 EDT from Magus @ Uncensored

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I really want to install a ceiling fan in my bedroom, but the current fixture isn't mounted to support one. I know I shouldn't just put one in anyway.
Is there any not incredibly annoying way to install one safely?

[#] Mon Aug 04 2008 22:29:53 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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what kind of ceiling? sheet rock? plaster.
You find a stud, nail a new box to it, probably wouldn't be a bad idea to add a support from the next beam over, hang ceiling fan.
Do you have access to ceiling from other side (attic?) Much easier to do anything than fix ceiling (in my opinion), so if you can get at it from the top, do that.
If not, plan on making a mess of your ceiling.

[#] Mon Aug 04 2008 23:33:43 EDT from Magus @ Uncensored

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Apartment, 1st coming in through the top. Center of room is, IIRC, between two beams (given what it looks like above the light). Think it's plaster? I forget...not at home until tomorrow.


[#] Mon Aug 04 2008 23:56:36 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Cutting into plaster is messy. Patching it up is even messier.

Anyway, the big deal is that you have to make sure that the box is well supported.
Many boxes that were just intended to hold a small light fixture are just lightly nailed into the side of a joist. You may need to add a few screws and possibly even a 2x4 header above the box in order to properly support the weight of a ceiling fan.

[#] Tue Aug 05 2008 00:19:33 EDT from Rudolph @ Uncensored

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Check out this thing;

I don't know if you'll find one at your local home improvement mega super warehouse or not.

[#] Wed Aug 06 2008 09:59:31 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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interesting gizmo, you'd certainly have to rip out a lot of ceiling to get that in there though.

[#] Wed Aug 06 2008 10:37:47 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Nice, but if you're going to open up the ceiling anyway, you can accomplish the same thing with a 2x4.

[#] Wed Aug 06 2008 18:57:22 EDT from Rudolph @ Uncensored

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The device I was thinking of is intended to be semi-collapsable and then fed through the existing box hole. After being stuffed through the hole between the joists, there's some kind of screw-ish/ratchety thing to expand it up against the joists, and little pointy nubs on the ends to bite into the wood.

The one I linked may not quite be that particular animal, pretty hard to tell from the pics, and even less obvious to me upon a second look... If that's not the one, I know I've seen one that does do what I described. Somewhere, in the last decade or so, somewhere between Idaho and California...

[#] Thu Aug 07 2008 22:52:17 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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hmmm... interesting, but I'm not sure I'd want to hang an unbalanced ceiling fan from it. Enough rocking over time and that puppy'll come right down on you.

[#] Fri Aug 08 2008 07:02:16 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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hmmm... interesting, but I'm not sure I'd want to hang an unbalanced
ceiling fan from it. Enough rocking over time and that puppy'll come
right down on you.

Actually, those insert and expand units are exactly what they sell to those not wishing to tear out all of the ceiling drywall. When I had the ceiling fan/light kit installed in my office, it's exactly what the contractor used.

[#] Fri Aug 15 2008 11:22:14 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Ran out of oil again. Yay burke heat.

[#] Fri Aug 15 2008 11:37:19 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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3 strikes for burke. Anybody have any suggestions for a reliable cheap oil company in westchester?

[#] Fri Aug 15 2008 12:03:19 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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When I had oil heat I used Robison. Never once ran out.

[#] Fri Aug 15 2008 13:19:41 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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There's no such thing as cheap oil. :)

I've had a couple of different oil companies, but Robison is the only one that hasn't ever let my tank run dry.

[#] Fri Aug 15 2008 13:24:32 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I keep misparsing that name as 'Orbison'. Then, I hear "Pretty Woman", which doesn't correlate well to oil.

[#] Fri Aug 15 2008 15:13:10 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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depends on how the oil is used...

[#] Fri Aug 15 2008 15:32:32 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Ah, well, there you have it.

Never in my wildest dreams would I think to pour heating oil all over a woman.

Probably because I'm gay.

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