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[#] Thu Jun 15 2006 13:54:10 EDT from girthta @ Uncensored

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Break out the KY!!!

[#] Mon Jun 19 2006 11:53:44 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Well I went in on friday, spent an hour and a half trying to get my application to them, and they weren't having it.
I guess it's a bad idea to try and deal with the government on a friday.
THey sent me away with more papers to be stamped by my architect.
I would be damned if I am going to bother him again (he's doing me a freebie favor so not bothering him is important)
The form I'm to have him fill out says "the architect needs to stamp and approve this form for all construction valued over $20,000"
Well, my gazebo isn't going to cost $20,000.
So Instaed I went to a lumberyard on friday and got an estimate for the lumber. It would seem almost nobody does their own work because trying to explain that I'm building it myself is like the oddest thing they'd ever heard of.
So I go back this morning with all my papers and forms and signatures.
And I just keep throwing paper at them until they run out of what to ask me for. And fially, they took it.
And $80 of course, to process the application.
So that part's done. Now I have to wait for them to find problems.

[#] Mon Jun 19 2006 11:55:39 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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So while we're here... I went to the lumberyard and got the cheapest estimate I could, but now I'm thinking of using better wood than just pressure treated.
Any suggestions.
As in, people tell me cedar, or mahogony. but I expect that's REAL expensive.
Also, does cedar or mahogony have to be stained, painted or anything?
They also suggest cedar shakes for the roof. I was just going to use black tar shingles, but now I'm thinking it would look a lot nicer with shakes
Are these really expensive? Are they water proof? Do I have to stain/polyeurothane them?

[#] Mon Jun 19 2006 12:17:16 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Cedar or mahogany would still need a weatherproof finish on them. An outdoor-rated varnish would probably be the most attractive.

[#] Mon Jun 19 2006 17:53:06 EDT from jock @ Uncensored

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The shakes need to be given a waterproof finish. They do look good, but they can develop rot quick. Why not consider a painted/colored tin roof? It can cost more, but you don't have to take it down to re-finish like you do shakes.

[#] Tue Jun 20 2006 10:55:43 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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ack! tin roof? sounds horrible. Not sure what it would look like though.

you have any pictures?

[#] Tue Jun 20 2006 11:15:03 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Just do the regular shingles. It'll look nice because it'll match your house and your shed.

[#] Tue Jun 20 2006 11:26:41 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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(and it's probably a lot easier and cheaper)
you have a good point. it will match nicely.

[#] Tue Jun 20 2006 11:27:43 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I was sort of hoping to see pictures of it, where a blue tarp was used for the roof.

[#] Tue Jun 20 2006 11:44:32 EDT from "hjalfi" <dg@uncensored> to fleeb <>

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Aren't shingles horribly flammable?

(I live in a house with slates, BTW.)

[#] Tue Jun 20 2006 11:51:07 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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the shed was the one with the tarp for a roof after the tree that fell on it knocked a hole in it.
Everything is horribly flammable if you get it hot enough.
Although I suppose rock will melt before it burns.
Anyway, yes, here in america we make our houses and other building structures out of matchsticks because we like progress, and since we're going to knock down whatever we build in a hundred years or so, why bother spending the time chiseling rocks?

[#] Tue Jun 20 2006 12:17:38 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Oddly enough, at the train station in my neighborhood, they opted to use slate shingles.

Nice, expensive, and probably will last forever.

[#] Tue Jun 20 2006 17:23:42 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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We put shingles on our houses and chicken pox on our sheds and garages. :)

Seriously though ... the most common type of shingles are made of asphalt, so they're actually not all that flammable.

Slate shingles *will* last forever if you take care of them. They don't wear down from weather in a few decades the way asphalt singles will. However, you have to be prompt in repairing any areas that are damaged by falling tree limbs, etc. Otherwise the roof will begin to fall apart around the damaged area.

[#] Wed Jun 21 2006 02:31:34 EDT from 2Dog @ Uncensored

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This is actually a "post" post as this all started Monday.

Onst Monday the movers arrived on schedule more or less.
This load involved some of the major appliances from Seguin. [[ I gotta hand it
to these guys, they worked really hard and put up with some *stuff* involving our
driveway and had a good sense of humor the whole time ]]

Well, once everything's in place I get to installing. Turning off the needle valve
in the ice-maker line for the fridge immediately causes it to start spewing out the handle.
(must be replaced) I finally find a position where it is just a not-so-slow drip. Then I put
a rectangular cake pan under the valve to catch the drips. Fixed for now, right?

Then I move to the dishwasher. I cannot connect it at this time without drilling
larger holes and a water supply tube extension. No biggie. Since the old one was hooked
up to the hot water valve I simply shut it off. That worked OK, but Nooooooooo......
as fate would have it, our kitchen faucet will bleed cold water thru the faucet mechanism
thus spewing out of the afore uncapped hot water spigot/valve/cutoff/whatever.

The waterfall coming from the under the sink cabinet was nice visually (and there were a few
good laughs had) but it was a total headache to clean up.

Anyways, after a day long sojourn to two hardware stores in Brady I have the fixin's
to make it right again. But that won't happen until tomorrow morning.

[#] Wed Jun 21 2006 02:54:10 EDT from harry @ Uncensored

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Sounds like one hellacious awful wet mess.

[#] Wed Jun 21 2006 13:26:59 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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wow, I just got a call from town of greenburgh saying my building permit is available.
woo hoo. 2 day turnaround. I disbelieve.
Actually what I believe is that they require a lot more paper work than they actually need.

[#] Wed Jun 21 2006 22:24:46 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Ford, you should get 2Dog to irrigate the site for you :)

[#] Thu Jun 22 2006 01:03:54 EDT from 2Dog @ Uncensored

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Har! At this point I think I could handle that job very well! :^)

[#] Thu Jun 22 2006 12:59:24 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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PIcked up the permit today. I guess I don't really need to have it just so that the town knows as is okay with it.
the nice competent lady from the backoffice, saw my waiting on line, stopped what she was doing and came up to the front desk and handed me my permit. There was a guy in front of me taking a lot of time, and I was just there to pick up quick.
But she didn't ask my name or anything, she just came up, dug it out of a pile underneath the desk and handed it to me.
Everybody should be so nice.

[#] Mon Jul 03 2006 11:36:43 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Made a big square in my backyard for gazebo. Going to rent huge honkin post hole digger for tomorrow.
drill the footing holes out tomorrow. wheeeeeeee.

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