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[#] Mon Sep 03 2007 16:59:21 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

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Okay... I grew up in the US, and I kinda remember that if someone offered you a "cheese sandwich" with no specification, you would get something like Kraft Singles. (ie "American Cheese")

In Israel, if you get a cheese sandwich, you get something with 22-28% fat that is an actual cheese. There are a few different types, but they all basically taste like cheese - softer and less flavorful than cheddar, not as bitter as munster... just... cheese. Unlike most cheeses, whose names I know, I can't identify this by name...

What kind of cheese would qualify as "just cheese?" 



[#] Mon Sep 03 2007 17:14:38 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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In my experience, an unqualified reference to "cheese" means either "I don't care what kind of cheese" *or* an expectation that the cook will select the cheese most commonly used in the dish being prepared.

For a grilled cheese sandwich, that usually refers to American cheese, unless the sandwich also contains ham, which would make Swiss cheese the expectation.

And for those of you who are like me and just *love* to eat grilled sandwiches but don't want to shell out $1000 for a sandwich press... a Foreman grill turns out excellent panini, as long as you don't mind there being grill marks on one side of it. Or, if you have a waffle iron that doubles as a griddle, you can put on the griddle plates and then close the iron, which works even better as a poor man's sandwich press.

[#] Mon Sep 03 2007 17:22:36 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

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humph, I must've misasked my question... I was wondering if there's kinda a generic cheese in the USA. I mean, if you buy something to throw in your sandwiches, your lasagne, etc... here there's a "basic" cheese which seems to be something like Edam or Colby cheese. It's what I keep in the house so that I can make anything I want that needs cheese without running around to buy specialty stuff.

I mean, if I know I'm making a lasagne, then I'll pick up some mozarella, and there are some things (like tacos) that I like with cheddar, and lately, we've gotten into kashkeval for omelettes and we also substitute it for parmesan, because it has an equally strong flavor and it's loads cheaper.   Plus Yaakov developed a thing for halumi... 

 



[#] Mon Sep 03 2007 18:42:56 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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The short answer is: no. Buy the right cheese for the dish.

[#] Mon Sep 03 2007 20:02:55 EDT from girthta @ Uncensored

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I agree with IG.

But, havig said that, I will say that for most people in the US, who are now not cooking day to day, I believe either "American" cheese (which is not real food in itself) or *shudder* Velvetta cheese food product is what they use. Otherwise, in America, cheese is default Cheddar or American. 



[#] Mon Sep 03 2007 23:23:44 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I happen to like Land-O-Lakes American cheese. As long as it's in a dish that calls for American cheese, of course. The stuff that comes in individually wrapped slices isn't cheese, nor is Velveeta.

mmmm... cheese :)

[#] Tue Sep 04 2007 00:30:39 EDT from 2Dog @ Uncensored

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I concur. Velvetea is *not* cheese, although it does have that commercial American cheese flavor.

Velveeta is really only good for greasing axle bearings, although amazingly most people use it to

prepare *queso* dip. 

Sharp cheddar and smoked gouda are the preferred cheeses in this house. (others to recipie/occasion of course)

 



[#] Tue Sep 04 2007 00:34:31 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

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It's strange how I thought that "American cheese" was cheese for the first 17 years of my life and now I think that it's barely edible.

Anyway, my whole point was that I had a bagel with melted Kashkaval & cheese (the aforementioned cheese which is something like edam and/or colby cheese but comes in slices or bricks).

it was yummy. 



[#] Tue Sep 04 2007 00:40:06 EDT from 2Dog @ Uncensored

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Cheese is a good thing. :)

[#] Tue Sep 04 2007 09:42:42 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Yeah, if you ask for just 'cheese' on a sandwich, you'll get whatever they think is appropriate.

This can range from plastic (the nasty velveeta anti-cheese) to cheddar, American, Swiss, Provolone, Muenster, and so on.... maybe Gruelere if you're really lucky, and happen to be dealing with a sophisticated deli.

[#] Tue Sep 04 2007 14:27:06 EDT from davew @ Uncensored

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In the UK there is a general, all rounder cheese. Cheddar.

Its popularity does vary slightly depending on region for example in the county of Chesire, Cheshire cheese is a little more popular but still its generally cheddar on a non specific sandwich.

Cheese slices are reserved for burgers from the burger van. 



[#] Tue Sep 04 2007 14:31:12 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Yes, I suppose if you live near the village of Cheddar, then Cheddar would be the most common cheese. :)

[#] Tue Sep 04 2007 14:47:42 EDT from 2Dog @ Uncensored

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Oh those poor souls who live in the village of Limburger.

[#] Tue Sep 04 2007 16:33:47 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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[#] Tue Sep 04 2007 16:55:16 EDT from Avalondaughter @ Uncensored

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Mon 03 Sep 2007 05:14:38 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar@uncnsrd

In my experience, an unqualified reference to "cheese" means either "I don't care what kind of cheese" *or* an expectation that the cook will select the cheese .

And for those of you who are like me and just *love* to eat grilled sandwiches but don't want to shell out $1000 for a sandwich press... a Foreman grill turns out excellent panini, as long as you don't mind there being grill marks on one side of it. Or, if you have a waffle iron that doubles as a griddle, you can put on the griddle plates and then close the iron, which works even better as a poor man's sandwich press.

Whatever happened to the good, old-fashioned, coat the sanwich in butter and cook it in the frying pan and weight it down with a plate?  I don't need any fancy panino (yes folks,  you have one panino, multiple panini, and paninis is just stupid) for just a cheese sandwich.  Heck, as the word panino just meant "sandwich" in Italian, you don't even need to have a fancy panino to have a panino. 

[#] Tue Sep 04 2007 17:18:23 EDT from Peter Pulse @ Uncensored

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I use the George Foreman all the time to make grilled cheese sandwiches all the time.. using that awful fake "American" cheese which is not cheese at all, but I have never been a really big cheese lover, so it doesn't offend me... Two slices of "cheese" between bread, throw it in there and close it, and take it out when its toasted on both sides. It's a far better snack than a lot of things you could eat. But of course they come out a lot better made in a pan with butter (with the plate on top, like ig said).

[#] Wed Sep 05 2007 01:02:56 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

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I have one of those cheapo sandwich makers. cost like $15. It makes nice grilled cheese.

[#] Wed Sep 05 2007 12:56:18 EDT from Avalondaughter @ Uncensored

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I definitely prefer cheddar with my grilled cheese, although sometimes mozzarella is really nice too.

[#] Wed Sep 05 2007 13:34:49 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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I like Mozzarella, Cheddar or, especially, Meunster.

[#] Wed Sep 05 2007 14:36:52 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I love Meunster. It's a fine cheese.

For bite, though, I like gruelere.

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