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[#] Mon Oct 23 2006 21:29:30 EDT from Animal @ Uncensored

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Jello.

Just use jello powder.

[#] Tue Oct 24 2006 00:06:11 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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If aspartame is really bad, then I'm in trouble.

You may be in trouble, then. When aspartame is digested, it breaks down into several nasty substances. There are some amounts of formaldehyde and formic acid, which are toxic in sufficient amounts. And there's also a significant amount of phenylalanine, which happens to be a neurotoxin. That's why consuming aspartame gives some people a headache: it is *literally* attacking your brain and central nervous system.

I steer clear of the stuff. When it comes to artificial sweeteners, good old saccharin is a safer bet. The best choice of all, of course, is to avoid artificial sweeteners altogether.

[#] Tue Oct 24 2006 01:37:48 EDT from nadia @ Uncensored

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Glad you liked it. The Morroccan joynt across the street used to be

good too but I haven't been there in years. Reminder: Visit
Tommyburger in MacArthur park.

i'm fleeing this coast for the other one, but i'll keep those places in mind

[#] Tue Oct 24 2006 01:38:43 EDT from nadia @ Uncensored

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Oct 23 2006 9:02pm from harry @uncnsrd

I prefer the Aspartame for an artificial sweetener. That's what they

use in Coke Zero, which I vastly prefer to Diet Coke. IMHO Diet Coke
has a metallic aftertaste that Coke Zero does NOT have.




you got it backwards, diet coke is the one with aspartame

[#] Tue Oct 24 2006 09:17:16 EDT from Grey Elf @ Uncensored

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Always room for jello.

[#] Wed Oct 25 2006 00:02:28 EDT from 2Dog @ Uncensored

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http://tinyurl.com/yxb3ls

I'm not too sure about this one... but hey, to each their own...


[#] Wed Oct 25 2006 03:01:13 EDT from harry @ Haven BBS

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IG - Can you back up what you said with a study of same posted on the web, or is this more "urban legend" ??


[#] Wed Oct 25 2006 06:03:15 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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It's urban legend. Nothing I say is ever true.

[#] Wed Oct 25 2006 08:04:58 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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http://www.sweetpoison.com/aspartame-side-effects.html

Pretty much what the URL says. But then, it's the Internet...

[#] Wed Oct 25 2006 08:06:13 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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And, perhaps some more information about Aspertame:

http://www.321recipes.com/aspartame.html

[#] Wed Oct 25 2006 10:18:35 EDT from wabewalker @ Uncensored

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[#] Wed Oct 25 2006 10:22:52 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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It's still kind of weird that so many people have some kind of beef with aspartame.

Regardless, I don't think the stuff tastes all the great, so I'm disinclined to use it. I'd rather use sugar for a sweetener anyway, and simply cut back on my intake.

[#] Wed Oct 25 2006 10:28:47 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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For perhaps the very first time, I'm going to disagree with Snopes.

The criticism of Aspartame is not that it "has been proved responsible for an epidemic of cancer, brain tumors, and multiple sclerosis." That assertion falls squarely into the realm of urban legend.

It does not dismiss, however, the *fact* that Aspartame, when digested, breaks down into its original components, several of which are known neurotoxins (phenylalanine, etc.)

[#] Wed Oct 25 2006 11:08:02 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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If you let an aspertame soda sit past its expiration date and drink it, you'll experience satori.

Well, actually, you'll experience something much worse.

[#] Wed Oct 25 2006 11:46:07 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

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when it's been out too long, it tastes awful, I'll give you that.

the question is how serious is the harm?

Is it a .01% chance that it will cause a headache or a .01% that it can cause some level of brain damage?

Because I'd take a chance on a headache over a sure-thing on raising my blood sugar any day. 



[#] Wed Oct 25 2006 11:51:27 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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http://science.howstuffworks.com/question536.htm

Will aspertame make me go blind?

[#] Wed Oct 25 2006 15:44:57 EDT from Magus @ Uncensored

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Good link, fleeb. Especially that last paragraph, which at least makes some vague attempt to put perspective (and, notably, numbers) on the issue they're talking about. Although...if accurate, these numbers are a bit frightening.

According to Wikipedia, the usual fatal dose of methanol is 100-125 mL. Unless there's some reason to believe that not all of the methanol produced by digesting aspartame is further digested in the usual fashion, it sounds like it wouldn't be too hard to reach a decidedly unhealthy dose.

[#] Wed Oct 25 2006 18:32:10 EDT from harry @ Haven BBS

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Thanks for the info. Gives me a LOT to think about before I take my next swig of Coke Zero. I have also been using Aspartame to sweeten my morning coffee.

*heavy sigh*

I guess I am just going to have to find a different sweetener instead of sugar and aspartame.

I just wish that IG had posted one or more of the links that the rest of you have. He's the one that made the statement in the first place, yet refused to back it up.

So, Thanks again for the words of warning.


[#] Wed Oct 25 2006 21:39:50 EDT from nadia @ Uncensored

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what's all this fear over a little methanol? yes, i did spend part of my night with a solvent, and methanol was my #2 choice. many women perform some kind of ritual cleansing of their hands and feet with acetone. i have to believe that's a lot worse in the long run than whatever your body does to any of these artificial sweetners.

<goes off to snort some hmds>

[#] Wed Oct 25 2006 21:51:45 EDT from Grey Elf @ Uncensored

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I hear rat poison is a wonderful sweetener harry.

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