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[#] Mon Oct 16 2006 10:31:18 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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First guy I ever had sex with mentioned a humiliating experience where, while he was having sex with this woman, she reached over and grabbed a sandwich.

Just to keep the focus on food in this room.

[#] Mon Oct 16 2006 10:32:15 EDT from Grey Elf @ Uncensored

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It better had been a REALLY good sammich.

[#] Mon Oct 16 2006 10:35:56 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

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fleeb: I often claim that I would be able to experience much more pleasure if I were eating a steak during sex. Sadly, my husband thinks that's weird.

and back to food - people should take responsibility and realize that if you smoke where I'm eating, you're stealing all the flavor from my food and leaving me to eat nicotine-stinky food.

then again, I guess you could open a chain of smoker's restaurants and let all the smokers poison each other...

Personally, I strongly appreciate it every time I walk into a place with no smoking and can eat without my senses being violated by nicotine.

 

and one more thing:

"having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool" 



[#] Mon Oct 16 2006 10:41:51 EDT from Grey Elf @ Uncensored

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Then don't eat at that restuarant.

Sheesh.

"I don't like this, so NONE OF YOU can do this."

Makes me wish we dried out coming out of the ocean.

[#] Mon Oct 16 2006 11:14:42 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Until recently (as in, a few years ago), restaurants in this area could have smoking/non-smoking sections... now they're supposed to be all non-smokeing.

Prior to the ban, though, we chose our restaurants carefully to avoid those that allowed smoking.

Worked okay, although it gets kind of challanging if you go to an area you're not familiar with.

[#] Mon Oct 16 2006 12:19:14 EDT from nadia @ Uncensored

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most of the smokers i know, given the choice between a smoking section and a non-smoking section in a restaurant, always want to eat in the non-smoking section. unless it's a separate _room_ i don't think the sections things works well at all.

[#] Mon Oct 16 2006 12:20:57 EDT from nadia @ Uncensored

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others. For instance you can't use an exhaust fan at the local cigar

club that exhausts into the bedroom window next door.

i would like it if they made it so that i didn't have to smell in-n-out burger's exhaust. but i'm across the street.

[#] Mon Oct 16 2006 17:00:04 EDT from truffle @ Uncensored

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as a smoker I prefer eating in the non-smoking section.

[#] Mon Oct 16 2006 17:05:22 EDT from Grey Elf @ Uncensored

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As a smoker, I wish non-smokers ate somewhere else.

I should open a cafe where you can't come in unless you smoke.

[#] Mon Oct 16 2006 17:48:10 EDT from curly surmudgeon @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Again, the only reason these anti-smoking laws are being passed is the arrogance and antisocial behavior of smokers. If smokers as a lot were a bit more considerate none of this bullsiht would be happening. I hate it when common decency is violated forcing people to enact laws where none should be required.

Put the assualt and battery laws on hold, let me use a squirt gun or the fire extinguisher on the smoker at the next table. Or water hose...

[#] Mon Oct 16 2006 17:47:05 EDT from wizard of aahz @ Uncensored

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Do you mean hair and skin smoking, clothing smoking or actually having a lit item in ones mouth?

[#] Mon Oct 16 2006 17:48:57 EDT from Grey Elf @ Uncensored

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All depends on my mood. :>

[#] Mon Oct 16 2006 17:55:39 EDT from Curly Surmudgeon @ Haven BBS

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nadia: From your references to teh Channel Islands and In-n-out are you in SoCal? Make sure to try Canters on Fairfax in West Hollywood (try the Canters Special) and the Tommy Burger at Macarthur Park or at the 405 and Roscoe in Van Nuys. Don't bother with the myriad of franchises, hit one of those two.

[#] Mon Oct 16 2006 19:51:36 EDT from nadia @ Uncensored

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curly: thanks for the suggestions. i'm not a fan of burgers, but i think i'll check out canter's deli on friday (when i plan to find myself in la for the last time in the near future)

now if you could find me a real sandwich in santa barbara... well, that's part of the reason i'm looking forward to leaving.

[#] Mon Oct 16 2006 20:42:40 EDT from curly surmudgeon @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Canters is on Fairfax between Melrose and Santa Monica (I think) near the CBS studios. Open 24/7, go anytime. Best Jewish Deli west of New York.

Tommy Burger isn't a hamburger, it's special. Be sure to ask for extra chili on the "burger" and maybe even chili/cheese fries.

As to Santa Barbara, I detest the place. Wonderful location with authoritarians destroying the quality of life. Drive down to Ventura/Oxnard for good Mexican.

[#] Mon Oct 16 2006 20:23:03 EDT from Grey Elf @ Uncensored

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Negro please. These laws are enacted by the same kind of fucking idiots that
stop me on NYC street corners and DEMAND that I put out my cigarette. The
same assholes who feel the need to go to work in a bar, and then complain
about the smoke.

Fuckwits like yourself, and your fucking holier then thou attitudes. When we
had 8+ kids here, we refrain from smoking indoors. When we have pregnant
women over we refrain from smoking indoors, in our own house, so pound
sand up yer ass with those "arrogance and antisocial behavior" remarks.

Second-hand smoke, while not healthy, isn't NEARLY as bad as all the
busybodies make it out to be, considering the two studies they keep
expounding to the press, one was vacated by a court of law for being
patently false, and the other was a loaded report (Inner city black
kids, with bronchial issues, living in ghetto's with smoking parents).

You
hate when governments legislate religion based bullshit laws, well
it's the same goddamn thing. All these laws are taste-based. You (the
general you) doesn't like cigarette smoke, so NO ONE should be allowed
to smoke. Well, I hate mouth-breathers, so stop fucking breathing.


Oct 16 2006 5:48pm from curly surmudgeon @dogpound2 (Dog Pound BBS II)

Again, the only reason these anti-smoking laws are being passed is the
arrogance and antisocial behavior of smokers. If smokers as a lot were
a bit more considerate none of this bullsiht would be happening. I
hate it when common decency is violated forcing people to enact laws
where none should be required.

Put the assualt and battery laws on hold, let me use a squirt gun or
the fire extinguisher on the smoker at the next table. Or water
hose...

[#] Mon Oct 16 2006 21:17:03 EDT from curly surmudgeon @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Hit a nerve, eh?

Health comes before your addiction. Too bad the "fuckwits," as you call them, have to spend precious public resources, time and police action to countermand the arrogance (whoa, Grey Elf!) of polluters.

Your rant is also wrong, second-hand smoke is _more_ harmful than that which comes through filter. We're not talking about _your_ house, yhou are not the center of the universe. Another example of arrogance.

It's the anti-social behavior of folks who force others to breathe their toxins who created this situation. Go after your brethern, not those who chose health.

[#] Mon Oct 16 2006 21:04:25 EDT from Grey Elf @ Uncensored

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Wonderful location with authoritarians destroying the quality of life.

Welcome to my world.

[#] Mon Oct 16 2006 22:15:42 EDT from Grey Elf @ Uncensored

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As usual dicknose, you ignored the meat of the argument because it doesn't
follow your narrow world-view. Show me a credible study, that a) isn't so
slanted as to be worthless, or b) pre-supposed all it's conclusions with
so little data, that it's vacated by a court, that shows second-hand smoke
is as dangerous as all the scare-mongers say it is.

You can't. Don't like smoke, then don't go where there is smoke, don't
legislate your preference for the rest of us. Speak about arrogance. If
I wish to go somewhere that doesn't allow smoking, then I don't smoke. But
that simple personal responsiblity was too much for you fucking idiots.

"I don't like this, so you can't do it." If that isn't the most arrogant
fucking view on the planet, I don't know what is.

Smoking is bad for you. Any schmuck that ever picked up a cigarette and
thought otherwise, deserves brain-cancer of the ass.
Second-hand smoke
isn't good for you either, but not even close to what the PR firms and
the anti-smoking goons say it is. Again, you support people legislating
taste, which makes you a hypocrite.

It's ok to outlaw smoking. (Opinon)
It's ok to legislate religious views. (Opinon)

You agree with one, and disagree with the other, when they're both the
same thing at it's heart. Ergo, you are the hypocrite we all know you
to be.

(And yes, it is a raw nerve with me. Even when I didn't smoke I thought
it was complete bullshit what they do to smokers. We pay more taxes then
anyone else per dollar spent for an item. I disagree with heavy drinking,
does that mean prohibition should return? No, it's just my opinon, thats
the difference between me, and the mongers who think it's their right
to legislate taste. Just like you Curly.)

[#] Tue Oct 17 2006 07:43:26 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I've noticed that the most virilent non-smokers are those who used to smoke.

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