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[#] Wed Oct 11 2006 20:22:53 EDT from truffle @ Uncensored

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it's just kinda bland and usually too dense. This time I cheated and added superfine chopped veggies to make it lighter. I think the problem is I want that ketchup taste, and can't have it.

[#] Wed Oct 11 2006 22:38:47 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Is someone in your household allergic to tomatoes?

If it's too dense then I would definitely go with the wet/desaturated bread instead of bread crumbs. I do all of my meatloves and meatballs that way and they come nice and soft.

[#] Wed Oct 11 2006 23:40:09 EDT from nadia @ Uncensored

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iirc they make her flare, all nightshades, or something like that.

[#] Wed Oct 11 2006 23:40:13 EDT from Ian M. Shot @ Haven BBS

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We use BBQ Sauce instead of ketchup. It just tastes better. Also we tend to use Stove Top instead of bread. It add seasoning to it, but then we add some garlic.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 00:30:26 EDT from nadia @ Uncensored

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i wonder if she needs to add some sugar to it?

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 00:34:15 EDT from truffle @ Uncensored

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i'll try adding water to the breadcrumbs(ok, it was crumbled toast last time.) and I'm allergic to tomatos, as nadia said, all nightshades.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 00:46:54 EDT from nadia @ Uncensored

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yeah, that's pretty much the opposite of wet bread :) next time save the toast for bread pudding for dessert.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 04:36:06 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

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I need an idea for a dessert.

I have a friend who's coming over, and every time he comes, we try a new dessert.

We usually bake together, but this time, I think I'm on my own.

We were thinking chocolatey and gooey, but we're open to suggestions. 

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 08:30:46 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Chocolaty and gooey?

Make chili with a lot of chocolate and gelatin.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 08:57:58 EDT from girthta @ Uncensored

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I don't know what your level of skill is, but I would recommend Paula Dean's goey cake recipe (go to and search for goey cake)

Other than that, you could try a chocolate volcano cake. 

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 09:03:25 EDT from girthta @ Uncensored

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truffle- do what IG said with the bread crumbs. Soak them in milk for a minute then squeeze the excess out. (use croutons or stale bread) Also, mix your meats. Use 1/2 & 1/2 beef and turkey. (you're Jewish, right?) The beef is too heavy by itself.

As for bland, just add more flavor. Make sure you sweat your veggies really well before mixing them in. (Dr Dan is roasting them first now because it's healthier) More worchestestesteshire and even something non tomatoe based like maybe Frank's Red Hot.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 09:15:08 EDT from wabewalker @ Uncensored

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How about roasted red pepper instead of tomato?  It doesn't taste like tomato, but its own flavor and sweetness could be interesting.  Maybe you could even make a paste with it?

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 09:21:17 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Hmm... things with flavor aside from tomatoes...

Garlic, celery, herbs, horseradish, almonds, sour milk (which, by extreme extension, could indicate cheeses, too), ginger, corn, onion, mushrooms, capers, fish, olives (green particularly), pimento, cyanide, anti-freeze, rust, anchovies...

The possibilities are endless.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 09:21:37 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Red peppers are a kind of nightshade.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 09:29:14 EDT from Grey Elf @ Uncensored

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Ignore what Ig and Girty said. :> Breadcrumb's are the worst binding agent
for meat. Instead, take a nice sized potato, skin it, and then puree it,
or use a fine mesh/grater to grate it into paste, and add that instead.

It basically dissolves, but the starch will bind the meat together.

Which reminds me, I should make meatloaf this weekend.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 09:32:46 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

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why make it when you can just invite it?

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 09:37:53 EDT from wabewalker @ Uncensored

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I had never heard of nightshade vegetables before this discussion!  It looks like hot peppers, potatoes and eggplant are out as well.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 09:38:10 EDT from Grey Elf @ Uncensored

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Well, usually I make meatloaf to feed the wabe and meatloaf, so it's rather

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 09:40:02 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I had a roommate who couldn't eat nightshades. You'd be surprised how limiting your choices become.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 09:41:06 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

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I can't eat lampshades.

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