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[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 08:57:58 EDT from girthta @ Uncensored

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I don't know what your level of skill is, but I would recommend Paula Dean's goey cake recipe (go to and search for goey cake)

Other than that, you could try a chocolate volcano cake. 

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 09:03:25 EDT from girthta @ Uncensored

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truffle- do what IG said with the bread crumbs. Soak them in milk for a minute then squeeze the excess out. (use croutons or stale bread) Also, mix your meats. Use 1/2 & 1/2 beef and turkey. (you're Jewish, right?) The beef is too heavy by itself.

As for bland, just add more flavor. Make sure you sweat your veggies really well before mixing them in. (Dr Dan is roasting them first now because it's healthier) More worchestestesteshire and even something non tomatoe based like maybe Frank's Red Hot.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 09:15:08 EDT from wabewalker @ Uncensored

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How about roasted red pepper instead of tomato?  It doesn't taste like tomato, but its own flavor and sweetness could be interesting.  Maybe you could even make a paste with it?

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 09:21:17 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Hmm... things with flavor aside from tomatoes...

Garlic, celery, herbs, horseradish, almonds, sour milk (which, by extreme extension, could indicate cheeses, too), ginger, corn, onion, mushrooms, capers, fish, olives (green particularly), pimento, cyanide, anti-freeze, rust, anchovies...

The possibilities are endless.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 09:21:37 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Red peppers are a kind of nightshade.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 09:29:14 EDT from Grey Elf @ Uncensored

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Ignore what Ig and Girty said. :> Breadcrumb's are the worst binding agent
for meat. Instead, take a nice sized potato, skin it, and then puree it,
or use a fine mesh/grater to grate it into paste, and add that instead.

It basically dissolves, but the starch will bind the meat together.

Which reminds me, I should make meatloaf this weekend.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 09:32:46 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

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why make it when you can just invite it?

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 09:37:53 EDT from wabewalker @ Uncensored

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I had never heard of nightshade vegetables before this discussion!  It looks like hot peppers, potatoes and eggplant are out as well.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 09:38:10 EDT from Grey Elf @ Uncensored

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Well, usually I make meatloaf to feed the wabe and meatloaf, so it's rather

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 09:40:02 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I had a roommate who couldn't eat nightshades. You'd be surprised how limiting your choices become.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 09:41:06 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

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I can't eat lampshades.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 09:41:42 EDT from Grey Elf @ Uncensored

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With nightshade allergies, isn't it only the green parts of the veggies?

Not that you should ever eat a green tater to begin with, but not being
able to eat potatoes. That's just...wrong.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 09:44:56 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Coincidentally, we are serving meatloaf tonight at the Mouse House. Lately we've been cooking it in muffin pans. The kids love the tiny "meatloaf muffins" on their plates.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 09:46:02 EDT from wabewalker @ Uncensored

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Apparently tobacco's a nightshade too.  But sweet potato is not.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 10:08:29 EDT from girthta @ Uncensored

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We actually don't use bread crumbs or cretins.

We use oatmeal... nice and FIBERY! 

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 10:29:30 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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'or cretins'... but morons are okay.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 10:44:49 EDT from girthta @ Uncensored

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yes, but they're a little chewy for my taste.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 11:04:13 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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For more information about nightshades.

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 13:08:37 EDT from nadia @ Uncensored

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truffle, do you still smoke? (or is tobacco only a problem if you eat it?)

[#] Thu Oct 12 2006 16:26:56 EDT from truffle @ Uncensored

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i quit often, but haven't managed to completely quit. A few a day and I'm ok, if I go out drinking I chain smoke and HURT the next day.

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