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[#] Mon May 19 2014 05:32:21 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: How do I Clear SMTP Outgoing Queue in Citadel Server via command line?

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[#] Mon May 19 2014 07:06:52 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: How do I Clear SMTP Outgoing Queue in Citadel Server via command line?

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Mon May 19 2014 05:32:21 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: How do I Clear SMTP Outgoing Queue in Citadel Server via command line?

I've added a shellscript to the article for your situation.



[#] Mon May 19 2014 09:58:56 EDT from "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" <listsebby@me.com> to citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] How do I Clear SMTP Outgoing Queue in Citadel Server via command line?

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On 19 May 2014, at 12:06, dothebart <dothebart@uncensored.citadel.org> wrote:
Mon May 19 2014 05:32:21 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: How do I Clear SMTP Outgoing Queue in Citadel Server via command line?
please have a look at

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:spam:recover



I've added a shellscript to the article for your situation.

Wow. Now *that’s* service! :)

I have to admit, though, that this is a pretty sucky situation to be in. I hope that some future version of the protocol will make it easier to dice and print the queue with just sendcommand. Or maybe citserver can take options so that even when it is not running you can flush the queue.

[#] Mon May 19 2014 22:48:28 EDT from fastfinge @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] How do I Clear SMTP Outgoing Queue in Citadel Server via command line?

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Unfortunately, this came too late to help with my situation, as I needed to restore mail absolutely ASAP. So I found another answer involving setting expiration and running purges and corrupting the citadel database: http://serverfault.com/questions/596827/how-do-i-clear-smtp-outgoing-queue-in-citadel-server-via-command-line/596853#596853 but at least it'll be there for the next poor sap who's stuck in this awful situation. Unfortunately, this has shown me that citadel does not offer complete enough administrative functionality for my purposes. When things go wrong, the custom format on disc and custom text client make them impossible for me, the lowly admin, to fix again in a reasonable (IE 1 to 3 hours) time frame. Thankfully, citadel was still in testing, so the few beta users can be migrated back to Google apps without much trouble. But I'll keep an eye on citadel development in hopes administrators get more powerful tools in future updates. So keep up the good work!
Mon May 19 2014 09:58:56 AM EDT from "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" <listsebby@me.com> Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] How do I Clear SMTP Outgoing Queue in Citadel Server via command line?
On 19 May 2014, at 12:06, dothebart <dothebart@uncensored.citadel.org> wrote:
Mon May 19 2014 05:32:21 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: How do I Clear SMTP Outgoing Queue in Citadel Server via command line?
please have a look at

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:spam:recover



I've added a shellscript to the article for your situation.

Wow. Now *that’s* service! :)

I have to admit, though, that this is a pretty sucky situation to be in. I hope that some future version of the protocol will make it easier to dice and print the queue with just sendcommand. Or maybe citserver can take options so that even when it is not running you can flush the queue.




[#] Thu May 22 2014 11:58:38 EDT from jame @ Rocasa Org System

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] How do I Clear SMTP Outgoing Queue in Citadel Server via command line?

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Mon May 19 2014 09:58:56 EDT from "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" <listsebby@me.com> Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] How do I Clear SMTP Outgoing Queue in Citadel Server via command line?
On 19 May 2014, at 12:06, dothebart <dothebart@uncensored.citadel.org> wrote:
Mon May 19 2014 05:32:21 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: How do I Clear SMTP Outgoing Queue in Citadel Server via command line?
please have a look at

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:spam:recover



I've added a shellscript to the article for your situation.
Wow. Now *that’s* service! :)

I have to admit, though, that this is a pretty sucky situation to be in. I hope that some future version of the protocol will make it easier to dice and print the queue with just sendcommand. Or maybe citserver can take options so that even when it is not running you can flush the queue.

Judging by doing similar things on  other mail systems, one would need to be to do that by Subject or by From or To lines...

 

 

 

Jame

 

 



[#] Thu May 22 2014 17:14:23 EDT from Ckilla @ Uncensored

Subject: hello

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Does anyone know where to find the Citadel install for OSX ?

 

 

Thanks

 



[#] Fri May 23 2014 04:35:22 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: hello

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Thu May 22 2014 17:14:23 EDT from Ckilla @ Uncensored Subject: hello

Does anyone know where to find the Citadel install for OSX ?

Afaik, there is none at the moment. I can try and find out if homebrew or gentoo-prefix will lead to a fast result. Maybe, in the long run, I could try to get a native (intel only) package going. If it does not require more skills than I have at hand. ;)



[#] Fri May 23 2014 18:08:52 EDT from Papadopoulos @ Uncensored

Subject: Fidonet network

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Hi All, I considering installing Citadel on my Unbuntu Linux computer to run a an 'ol school BBS.

 

I would like to know if Citadel has FTN (Fidonet) and QWK network capabilities to receive messages and Files? Much like a Synchonet system has.

 

Thank you in advance.



[#] Sat May 24 2014 03:31:11 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Fidonet network

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Fri May 23 2014 18:08:52 EDT from Papadopoulos @ Uncensored Subject: Fidonet network

Hi All, I considering installing Citadel on my Unbuntu Linux computer to run a an 'ol school BBS.

 

I would like to know if Citadel has FTN (Fidonet) and QWK network capabilities to receive messages and Files? Much like a Synchonet system has.

 

Thank you in advance.



no, it doesn't have adaptors for these.

you could however probably easily plug them into the spooling mechanism...



[#] Sat May 24 2014 10:16:09 EDT from jame @ Rocasa Mail System

Subject: Re: Fidonet network

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Fri May 23 2014 18:08:52 EDT from Papadopoulos @ Uncensored Subject: Fidonet network

Hi All, I considering installing Citadel on my Unbuntu Linux computer to run a an 'ol school BBS.

 

Something I've thought about as well; although I'm already running it for other reasons

 

 I would like to know if Citadel has FTN (Fidonet) and QWK network capabilities to receive messages and Files? Much like a Synchonet system has.

 

There are possibilities for both, possibly still more so depending on how it goes with using NNTP for at least transport.  (I know of FTN programs usable for gating FTN <-> Newsgroups/Email, one of which is still in Debian/Ubuntu although it needs work.)

 

 

 

Jame

 

 

 

 

 

 



[#] Sat May 24 2014 10:35:35 EDT from jame @ Rocasa Mail System

Subject: Re: Fidonet network

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Sat May 24 2014 03:31:11 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Fidonet network

 

Fri May 23 2014 18:08:52 EDT from Papadopoulos @ Uncensored Subject: Fidonet network

Hi All, I considering installing Citadel on my Unbuntu Linux computer to run a an 'ol school BBS.

 

I would like to know if Citadel has FTN (Fidonet) and QWK network capabilities to receive messages and Files? Much like a Synchonet system has.

 

no, it doesn't have adaptors for these.

 

What's the possibility of being able to configure additional possibly external adapters?  (There's more than one way to 'integrate' additional functionality...)

 

 you could however probably easily plug them into the spooling mechanism...

 That's one of the things I intend to investigate when  I have a chance...

 

 

 

 

Jame

 

 



[#] Wed May 28 2014 02:21:33 EDT from ichrispa @ Uncensored

Subject: Inbound mail not being displayed

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Hello everyone,

I recently had to change my domain name (thanks to dyndns). I updated my host and citadel configuration accordingly, changing the domain in all mail setting dialogs. Inbound mail is being accepted via smtp (confirmed using a tcpdump trace), but when I check the private mail room of the user account no new emails are being displayed. Note that this worked perfectly before the domain name switching.

The server affected is 8.22-1 running on wheezy.

Can anyone give me a hint on how to debug or even better resolve this issue?

Best Regards,

Chris



[#] Wed May 28 2014 14:36:01 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Inbound mail not being displayed

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Wed May 28 2014 02:21:33 EDT from ichrispa @ Uncensored Subject: Inbound mail not being displayed

Hello everyone,

I recently had to change my domain name (thanks to dyndns). I updated my host and citadel configuration accordingly, changing the domain in all mail setting dialogs. Inbound mail is being accepted via smtp (confirmed using a tcpdump trace), but when I check the private mail room of the user account no new emails are being displayed. Note that this worked perfectly before the domain name switching.

The server affected is 8.22-1 running on wheezy.

Can anyone give me a hint on how to debug or even better resolve this issue?

Best Regards,

Chris



you have to edit your users personal vcard.

To update all users default email address issue

sendcommand IGAB

on the commandline.

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:troubleshooting:tracking_citadel

QDIR can help you debugging this issue.



[#] Sat May 31 2014 05:33:47 EDT from fwheeler @ Uncensored

Subject: citadel password policy and password reset

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hello,

i am  using long random password ( 60 symbols, letters, digits)  where possible.

what are the restrictions citadel places on passwords?

   - number of character

   - symbols allowed/not allowed

i have completed today an install of of citadel and i am not able to login.

what command line utility does citadel have to clear or change password?

also how do i have get a password reset for my account at  citadel.org as the laptop with that account details in not available ?

 

 

 



[#] Sat May 31 2014 14:19:12 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

Subject: Re: citadel password policy and password reset

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what command line utility does citadel have to clear or change
password?


.ep
which ends up looking like...
. enter password

at which point you will be prompted to enter your new password and once more to confirm it, at which point the change is immediate.

[#] Sat May 31 2014 14:20:28 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Of course I did not completely read the message and the part about being unable to log in... </stupid-mode>

[#] Mon Jun 02 2014 04:02:29 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: citadel password policy and password reset

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Sat May 31 2014 05:33:47 EDTfrom fwheeler @ Uncensored Subject: citadel password policy and password reset

hello,

i am  using long random password ( 60 symbols, letters, digits)  where possible.

what are the restrictions citadel places on passwords?

   - number of character

31 chars is my longest accepted password, I think more did not work. Which is a shame, since my non-random passwordsphrases easily become longer than 40 chars.

   - symbols allowed/not allowed

I have found restrictions for the login, not for the password

i have completed today an install of of citadel and i am not able to login.

Try the first 31 chars of your password.

what command line utility does citadel have to clear or change password?

also how do i have get a password reset for my account at  citadel.org as the laptop with that account details in not available ?

Hm, ask an admin/aide, maybe IG can help you. Or wait till you are at your laptop again. ;)



[#] Mon Jun 02 2014 08:00:59 EDT from andrea paltrinieri @ Uncensored

Subject: citadel and greylisting

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Hi, I've just set up a Citadel Mail Server on a Debian7 and was astonished how quick and nofrills it was.

Now I'd like to add a grey listing software. Are there any how-to or suggestion on which one to use?

 

regards



[#] Mon Jun 02 2014 08:59:57 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: citadel and greylisting

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Mon Jun 02 2014 08:00:59 EDT from andrea paltrinieri @ Uncensored Subject: citadel and greylisting

Hi, I've just set up a Citadel Mail Server on a Debian7 and was astonished how quick and nofrills it was.

Now I'd like to add a grey listing software. Are there any how-to or suggestion on which one to use?

I use postgrey on Centos. But in order to do so you need to install postfix as your MTA, configure it to use the lmtp socket in order to talk to citadel. Postfix - putting the frills back into your setup!

http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:installation:configuring_postfix_to_validate_email_addresses_against_a_citadel_server?s[]=postfix



[#] Mon Jun 02 2014 11:24:49 EDT from gangnamstyle @ Uncensored

Subject: fetching POP3 fails

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I'm trying to use Citadel as a local IMAP server, to sync several (also local) clients. External mails should be fetched from a POP3 mail account. According to what I read about Citadel, this should not be a problem. (Yes, I'm new to Citadel)

I set up a new server (basic ubuntu 12.04 server) and installed Citadel with the easy install script. (Citadel 8.24, WebCit 8.24, Server-Build 8.24)

First attempts to add a POP3 account ended in an error message "Unable to allocate the space required for /usr/local/citadel/netconfigs", which went away after "chown -R citadel:citadel /usr/local/citadel/" hinted somewhere here (seems to be a easy-install bug, not to provide the installation directory with the proper rights, right?).

Then, normal users got the message "Higher access is required to access this function." while entering "Edit or delete this room" - but adding the POP3 credentials seemed to work. Btw, it took me quite some time to figure out, that Citadel can't handle SSL/TLS while fetching POP3 mails. I really hope, this functionality will be added in the future - but until then, at least tell people, that it does not work yet. In germany, there are almost no POP3-accounts left that even allow access without encryption.

Well - I still have one POP3 account that allows "port 110 plaintext" access (I checked). But it does not fetch any mails.

When I check the logs, there are no real error messages: just "fetched 0 new of 6 messages in ...", even when the last poll logged with "fetched 0 new of 5 messages in ...".

Is it really possible, that something as basic as POP3 retrieval is not working properly - in 30 year old software? Or did I miss some part of configuration? Regarding POP3, according to the documentation, I only need to add the credentials in the room config, right?

Something else: I can't find any documentation, if Citadel supports the "IMAP keywords" feature. Does anyone know, if it does?

 

 



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