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[#] Fri Mar 21 2014 10:24:13 EDT from kjeno @ Uncensored

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Hello,

 

I am using the citadel, but i have a problem. If somebody sent a mail to yahoo.com, the smtp queue is "stopping".

We can see this:

looking up mx - record yahoo.com (kilő) 

 

Jobs waiting for further processing:

 

 

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14:17 jan 01 1970 admin@foursoft.hu
xxxxxxxx@yahoo.com  

 

 

 

 

Can anybody helm me?

 

Thanks

 

Jeno

 

 

 



[#] Fri Mar 21 2014 13:30:41 EDT from ACA @ Uncensored

Subject: I can not access to webcit via browser

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Hi,

I installed citadel on a virtual machine (virtualbox) with centos 6.5 minimal using "easy install". Everything seems to be correctly installed, I used port 8080 for the webcit. I did ping from other terminal to this ip and all is right, but when try to access webcit with a browser from other terminal (http://192.168.1.9:8080) can't access just get "the browser can not stablish conexion with the page 192.168.1.9:8080"... I really don't know what happen, please help me.



[#] Fri Mar 21 2014 16:00:27 EDT from nristen @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: I can not access to webcit via browser

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check to make sure that the iptables firewall is not blocking the connection... use "iptables -L" to check.

[#] Sun Mar 23 2014 04:40:29 EDT from mo @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: ssh login?

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Thu Mar 20 2014 02:13:40 EDT from mo @ Uncensored Subject: ssh login?

Should i be able to login with SSH as well as telnet? 

I have no issues using telnet, but when i try ssh with my regular password i cannot login.

 



Well i hope this wasn't a dumb question?  Telneting into the uncensored bbs is the only way to go then? When you telnet in, is everything transmitted in the clear? Can i use ssh? :)



[#] Sun Mar 23 2014 05:51:21 EDT from "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" <listsebby@me.com> to citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: ssh login?

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On 23 Mar 2014, at 08:40, mo <mo@uncensored.citadel.org> wrote:
Well i hope this wasn't a dumb question? Telneting into the uncensored bbs is the only way to go then? When you telnet in, is everything transmitted in the clear? Can i use ssh? :)

It's configured by the host. If telnetd or sshd are set up to launch the citadel client, those protocols can be used to log into the BBS. It's not handled by citadel server itself.

For Uncensored! the likelihood is good that telnet is made accessible for your convenience, but SSH is reserved for Unix system access by the sysop.

Yes, telnet sends your stuff in the clear. Choose a password you aren't using anywhere else. Or set a client up locally and connect to Uncensored! that way, so you can use SSL.

[#] Sun Mar 23 2014 09:58:14 EDT from rolfijn @ Uncensored

Subject: Remove calendar item long past

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Hi there,

I am new to Citadel and testing it out for my family's PIM needs. In my Citadel installation I created a room Birthdays. It's viewed as a calendar. I created an event for a birthday for a person who was born on 16 May 1975. The idea was to make this the start- and end-date (in an all day event) and have it recurring annually. However, the calendar pop-up got in the way and an [ENTER] to get rid of it saved the event, before I could set the recurrence. I think I now have a single event on 16 May 1975.

I want to edit the appointment and enable the recurrence, so I enter the Birthdays room. Now, do I have to click the "previous month"  icon more then 450 times to arrive in May 1975, or is there another way to get to this event and edit it? For example by searching for the event or by retrieving a list of events.

Regards,

Rolf



[#] Sun Mar 23 2014 13:36:04 EDT from "flatline" <uc@moritzbellach.de> to citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: Groupdav with Kontact (kde 4)

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Hello,

 

I am relatively new to citadel, but I have a working server set up. However I am unable to get groupdav working in KDE 4's Kontact. Looking at the logs it looks like Kontact gets the list of entries (for example contacts), but it doesn't seem to download the entries themselves. Kontact doesn't throw any errors, but doesn't show contacts either. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

 

Thank you in advance,

Moritz

 

 



[#] Sun Mar 23 2014 17:59:06 EDT from "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" <listsebby@me.com> to "citadel_support@citadel.org" <citadel_support@citadel.org>

Subject: Gating Netnews

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Hi,

I've been playing around with Citadel for the past couple of weeks or so.

It looks like I can make Citadel do everything I need in one package, which is truly awesome, except for one thing: gatewaying news. I use Mailman's mail<->news gateway facilities.

I suppose the recently discussed NNTP support would play nicely into that? It'd be cool to operate Citadel leafnode-style: you pull news down from a site, pretending to be one of its peers, and put group articles into their own rooms, not unlike the RSS support we already have.

Just a suggestion.

[#] Mon Mar 24 2014 00:34:48 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: ssh login?

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Sun Mar 23 2014 05:51:21 AM EDT from "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" <listsebby@me.com> Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: ssh login?
On 23 Mar 2014, at 08:40, mo <mo@uncensored.citadel.org> wrote:
Well i hope this wasn't a dumb question? Telneting into the uncensored bbs is the only way to go then? When you telnet in, is everything transmitted in the clear? Can i use ssh? :)
It's configured by the host. If telnetd or sshd are set up to launch the citadel client, those protocols can be used to log into the BBS. It's not handled by citadel server itself.

For Uncensored! the likelihood is good that telnet is made accessible for your convenience, but SSH is reserved for Unix system access by the sysop.

Yes, telnet sends your stuff in the clear. Choose a password you aren't using anywhere else. Or set a client up locally and connect to Uncensored! that way, so you can use SSL.

You probably need to set your shell in /etc/passwd to point to citadel.  That way you will run it after doing the auth bit via ssh.  So, if you set up a local user and have citadel installed, change the shell to be :

/usr/local/bin/gouc.sh

Then make a script in /usr/local/bin called gouc.sh and put this in it:

/usr/local/citadel/citadel uncensored.citadel.org

That way, when you log in to your local ssh (or su to that user), you will get the uncensored.citadel.org login and have your UC prompt and be at least SSL tunneled.
 
If you don't like that, I am sure there is a way to wire it up using IPX/SPX, but that is left as an exercise to the reader (of rapidly advancing years) :-)
 
You can then ssh (or su) to the local user you set up to get to uncensored, and be provided a layer of some security via the text client (provided by your local install).
 
Hope that makes sense, but it is late, so feel free to ask questions later.
 


[#] Mon Mar 24 2014 00:42:20 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Gating Netnews

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Sun Mar 23 2014 05:59:06 PM EDT from "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" <listsebby@me.com> Subject: Gating Netnews
Hi,

I've been playing around with Citadel for the past couple of weeks or so.

It looks like I can make Citadel do everything I need in one package, which is truly awesome, except for one thing: gatewaying news. I use Mailman's mail<->news gateway facilities.

I suppose the recently discussed NNTP support would play nicely into that? It'd be cool to operate Citadel leafnode-style: you pull news down from a site, pretending to be one of its peers, and put group articles into their own rooms, not unlike the RSS support we already have.

Just a suggestion.

Sounds like a fun hack (NNTP) fetch ability.  I am not so familiar with NNTP leaf node requirements from the NNTP protocol.  Seems like the nntp protocol has been dying as of late (kinda like BSD), but I am interested in hearing about use cases (outside of uu-encoded piracy).  I don't write for Citadel, so any info would be for my own edification.



[#] Mon Mar 24 2014 07:38:45 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Gating Netnews

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Yes, we are building in NNTP support, and if you want to build a netnews gateway it is our intention to be able to do that in the not too distant future.

[#] Mon Mar 24 2014 09:19:13 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Not sure if this has been covered before or if I've even asked, before, but...

...Is there something that I can enable/configure within WebCit to stop spiders from crawling my Citadel?

[#] Mon Mar 24 2014 10:05:14 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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...Is there something that I can enable/configure within WebCit to
stop spiders from crawling my Citadel?

I just firewall off the Russian/Chinese badly behaved ones.

http://www.netnuisance.net/ip/se.php is a good place to get the firewall rules.

[#] Mon Mar 24 2014 12:01:06 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Working on those, but I'm getting tired of hours-long connections from Google, M$ and Baidu, as well.

[#] Mon Mar 24 2014 12:02:36 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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D'oh!!!


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[#] Mon Mar 24 2014 12:50:21 EDT from "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" <listsebby@me.com> to citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Gating Netnews

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On 24 Mar 2014, at 04:42, ax25 <ax25@uncensored.citadel.org> wrote:
Sun Mar 23 2014 05:59:06 PM EDT from "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" <listsebby@me.com> Subject: Gating Netnews
It looks like I can make Citadel do everything I need in one package, which is truly awesome, except for one thing: gatewaying news. I use Mailman's mail<->news gateway facilities.

I suppose the recently discussed NNTP support would play nicely into that? It'd be cool to operate Citadel leafnode-style: you pull news down from a site, pretending to be one of its peers, and put group articles into their own rooms, not unlike the RSS support we already have.
Sounds like a fun hack (NNTP) fetch ability. I am not so familiar with NNTP leaf node requirements from the NNTP protocol. Seems like the nntp protocol has been dying as of late (kinda like BSD), but I am interested in hearing about use cases (outside of uu-encoded piracy). I don't write for Citadel, so any info would be for my own edification

Basically NNTP operates in two modes: client-server and server-server. This supports "Flood-fill" propagation between peers (articles are thrown about until everyone has everything) in the former, and reader access to their local peers in the latter. RFC 3977 has all the details.

Leafnode is at http://leafnode.sourceforge.net/ . The intent is that because peering with a server is hard work, it is simpler to just behave like a normal newsreader when communicating with a local server, thus giving the network a cache without the expense. But these days NNTP providers are for a fee, and take a dim view of you doing that (because that means other customers than you benefit). Leafnode however is only really useful if you access news using NNTP; my most recent survey says that the best clients are still dual-purpose (mail and news) and/or do not exist at all or in limited numbers on modern platforms (iPhone has just one client, the Mac as just one and it's really geared toward binaries). And indeed, news.software.readers now appears to be full of bigots still using clients without spam filtering or robust MIME support. All the good groups have their own forums; all that's left are the comp.* and sci.* groups with long cultures there. So I think you're right that NNTP is dying. Certainly there is nothing you can do with NNTP that you can't do, better, with email and/or web forums. BTW, piracy is now done using an eight-bit-clean format called yEnc; UUEncode is old-school. :)

For a while I have been using Mailman to suck news, allowing me to access it at my email account via IMAP, using OS X Mail and iOS Mail. There's one site in particular (news.grc.com) that's NNTP-only and has some desirable groups, so although I don't post there any more I can still follow by email. It'd be really nice to pull these groups into the room abstractions, get them via IMAP, surf them on the web (they have a policy of privacy, because they're like that) etc. I might even be able to configure posting, meaning I could easily follow up from the web again. Things would of course be better if GRC simply moved to email and/or web forums like everybody else, but oh well, it is what it is -- and if Citadel just happens to incorporate NNTP support as either peer or puller, I'd get it "For free". Perhaps I should look at the existing codebase to see how it might be done.

HTH :)

[#] Mon Mar 24 2014 13:10:32 EDT from "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" <listsebby@me.com> to citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Gating Netnews

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On 24 Mar 2014, at 16:50, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listsebby@me.com> wrote:
Basically NNTP operates in two modes: client-server and server-server. This supports "Flood-fill" propagation between peers (articles are thrown about until everyone has everything) in the former, and reader access to their local peers in the latter.

Oops! I of course meant that server-server was for the former, and client-server the latter. I was just trying too hard. :)

[#] Mon Mar 24 2014 17:28:19 EDT from mo @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: ssh login?

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Mon Mar 24 2014 00:34:48 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: ssh login?

 

Sun Mar 23 2014 05:51:21 AM EDT from "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" <listsebby@me.com> Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: ssh login?
On 23 Mar 2014, at 08:40, mo <mo@uncensored.citadel.org> wrote:
Well i hope this wasn't a dumb question? Telneting into the uncensored bbs is the only way to go then? When you telnet in, is everything transmitted in the clear? Can i use ssh? :)
It's configured by the host. If telnetd or sshd are set up to launch the citadel client, those protocols can be used to log into the BBS. It's not handled by citadel server itself.

For Uncensored! the likelihood is good that telnet is made accessible for your convenience, but SSH is reserved for Unix system access by the sysop.

Yes, telnet sends your stuff in the clear. Choose a password you aren't using anywhere else. Or set a client up locally and connect to Uncensored! that way, so you can use SSL.

You probably need to set your shell in /etc/passwd to point to citadel.  That way you will run it after doing the auth bit via ssh.  So, if you set up a local user and have citadel installed, change the shell to be :

/usr/local/bin/gouc.sh

Then make a script in /usr/local/bin called gouc.sh and put this in it:

/usr/local/citadel/citadel uncensored.citadel.org

That way, when you log in to your local ssh (or su to that user), you will get the uncensored.citadel.org login and have your UC prompt and be at least SSL tunneled.
 
If you don't like that, I am sure there is a way to wire it up using IPX/SPX, but that is left as an exercise to the reader (of rapidly advancing years) :-)
 
You can then ssh (or su) to the local user you set up to get to uncensored, and be provided a layer of some security via the text client (provided by your local install).
 
Hope that makes sense, but it is late, so feel free to ask questions later.
 

Thank you ax25 and Sabahattin!

I installed just the citadel client, (i will set up the complete system one day) and logged in with the client instead of telnet/ssh:

"
Encrypting with TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256 of 256 bits)
Citadel 8.24           
Uncensored
Hawthorne, NY USA
 pause    next    stop
 ctrl-s  ctrl-o  ctrl-c

 
                          W e l c o m e       t o
 
                          -----------------------
                           U N C E N S O R E D !
                          -----------------------
     -=< Mike Godwin has declared this a Godwin's Law Free Zone! >=-
"
Success!! B)

 



[#] Mon Mar 24 2014 22:38:56 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: ssh login?

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You are welcome Mo.  Thanks for the NNTP refresher Sabahattin.  I guess it would be nice to be able to pull NNTP in to Citadel.  Another method is great as it would seem many of my RSS feeds are dying off as well.  Should fire up a newsreader tonight and check out some of the 8 bit emulator scene again.



[#] Tue Mar 25 2014 12:39:11 EDT from ACA @ Uncensored

Subject: Error when try to add configuration for POP3 retrieval

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When I try to add the configuration to retrieve emails from a remote POP3 account I get the error:

"Unable to allocate the space required for /usr/local/citadel/netconfigs/8.2: Permission denied"



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