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[#] Fri Feb 14 2014 01:58:10 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Easy Install Error

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You're missing the i18n tools; please refer to the 

Prerequisites:

section how they're named on your distribution.

http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:easyinstall:easyinstall



[#] Fri Feb 14 2014 04:35:23 EST from the_mgt @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Need help in understanding CITADEL features

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Thu Feb 13 2014 06:28:13 ESTfrom kashifabbas @ Uncensored Subject: Need help in understanding CITADEL features

I am interested in using Citadel but need some clarifications, if some can help.

Can we use Citadel as MS Exchange?

If you pay a third party for an Outlook plugin, you can. But with the "out of the box" version of Citadel, you can't at the moment.

Can we attach multiple SMTP connectors with a single account, like in MS Exchange?

Do you mean POP3 Connectors like in SBS installs?

Or do you mean "using an external smtp server in order to relay emails"? Does this cover your question: http://citadel.org/doku.php/faq:installation:relay

Can we use Citadel for internal email purpose only? and allow only some who can send email both internally and externally?

Yes, you can use it internally only, sending to "the internet" (everything outside the citadel server) can be deactivated for certain/most users.

Can we create policy for quota, mailbox size, send/receive size, html or plain text?

Can't tell you that right out of my head, try browsing http://citadel.org for further information.

Can we integrate it with MS Active Directory?

Yes, you can use MS AD as a provider for user authentication. But at the moment, you won't get your contact information for the Citadel users filled with the data from the AD. There is work in progress towards improving this, but it is a long term goal.

Can we auto add a disclaimer whenever a user send an email. Global for all but parameterized as in MS Exchange?

Like a global signature? I think this is not possible.

Can we use mail access agent MS Outlook?

Yes, with all the joy and beauty this mail access agent provides. Imap and Pop3 work as intended.

Thanks if anyone can answer above queries.

Kashif Abbas

As a personal note, I am currently trying to find out, wether Citadel can be used in combination with SOGo and OpenChange as a complete MS Exchange replacement. In this scenario you would not need third party plugins for MS Outlook. This is scheduled for the next month, I first need to upgrade my clients to Win7, replace some server hard- and software and then I will try this. Expect a result around easter.

I hope this answered your questions.



[#] Fri Feb 14 2014 04:38:51 EST from the_mgt @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Access for my clients...

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Thu Feb 13 2014 14:59:05 EST from saphat @ Uncensored Subject: Access for my clients...

Hi, I know this is a complete noobie question but how do I gain access to the server through the web browser?  On the host computer, localhost.localdomain:2000 works but won't work for any other remote computer on my LAN.  I've read somewhere that I have to change my 'Fully qualified domain name' to a abc.example.com type format but that was not helped.  I'm looking to move away from SME Server to this since it has way more features, thanks!

Indeed it is. ;)

"localhost" is the "I" of computers, it always refers to the machine you are currently using. The server on which you installed citadel should have a more distinct hostname, it is the one you see in the command line:

saphat@comapanyserver ~ $ 

"Companyserver" would be the name you should try in the webbrowser. Or you use the ip address of the server, if that fails.



[#] Fri Feb 14 2014 10:00:38 EST from Colton @ Uncensored

Subject: Citadel Installation - server failed to start

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Setup is finished, but the citadel server failed to start.
Go back and check your configuration.

unable to access /etc/aliases

I've tried re installing 3 times but can't get it working.

 

I'm running on a virtual Ubuntu 12.4 LTS server.

 

Anyone have any ideas?

thanks in advance



[#] Fri Feb 14 2014 15:39:05 EST from the_mgt @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Citadel Installation - server failed to start

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Fri Feb 14 2014 10:00:38 EST from Colton @ Uncensored Subject: Citadel Installation - server failed to start

Setup is finished, but the citadel server failed to start.
Go back and check your configuration.

unable to access /etc/aliases

$ touch /etc/aliases

and rerun citadel-setup (or what's it called?) again. See if it helps.



[#] Sat Feb 15 2014 03:47:31 EST from "S. Hakim Hamdani [ML]" <ml@eroteme.ch> to citadel_support@citadel.org

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[#] Sat Feb 15 2014 04:16:32 EST from "S. Hakim Hamdani [ML]" <ml@eroteme.ch> to citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: IMAP connection timeouts after upgrade 8.17 -> 8.22

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Dear all,

apologies for the previous empty test post. I subscribed via email, so
I didn't know if posting to the room by email was allowed. I figured it
would be easiest to just test it. ;)

I am running citadel as a binary install. Several versions since 7.xx,
most recently 8.17 and then just a little while ago I upgraded to 8.22.

Interestingly the summary page states:

"You are connected to XXXXXX.com webmail, running Citadel 8.22 with
WebCit 8.17, server build 8.22"

Here is output from dpkg (edited for clarity):

root@XXXXX:~# dpkg --list | grep citadel
ii citadel-client 8.17-1
ii citadel-common 8.22-1
ii citadel-doc 8.22-1
ii citadel-mta 8.22-1
ii citadel-server 8.22-1
ii citadel-suite 8.22-1
ii citadel-webcit 8.17-1
ii libcitadel2 8.13-1
ii libcitadel3 8.17-1
ii libcitadel4 8.22-1

So, despite citadel-webcit 8.22-1 being available on the repository,
the latest upgrade did not update it to 8.22-1. Weird that.

Here's /etc/apt/sources.list.d/citadel.list:

deb http://debian.citadel.org/ubuntu/ oneiric main

And no, I'm on Ubuntu precise here, but using (successfully) the oneiric
repository because there is none for precise:

root@XXXXX:/etc/apt/sources.list.d# lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
Release: 12.04
Codename: precise

Since the "upgrade" my clients (all IMAPS via Thunderbird, port 993)
once or at most twice a day become unable to connect to the server.
Mostly in the mornings.

Rebooting the server solves the issue.

Issuing /etc/init.d/citadel restart does NOT. That command will not
succeed.

Rebooting is not a nice solution.

Also, on a daily basis (discounting manual restarts of the server), I
get between 1 and 10, but on average 4 or 5 "Citadel server process
terminated unexpectedly" emails in the Aide folder. This bears no
correlation to the clients hanging however. There are more such emails
than occurrences of clients "hanging".

This is new. (Compared to 8.17 which ran super smooth with no hickups.)

I have observed the logs when (or rather after) these "hangs" occur
(they occur for all users, before anyone asks), and there is NOTHING
extraordinary visible in the logs. Citadel logs a client wishing to
access via IMAP and then just sits there and nothing further happens.

I have not enabled debug logging because I really do not know what kind
of failure I am looking for yet. I can't access webcit during the hang,
so enabling debug logging after the fact seems to be a no go.

I have no core dumps because the binary distribution executables are
stripped. Judging by the version of citadel that is running on
uncensored.citadel.org, the latest easyinstall from which I might
obtain an unstripped citserver binary are already a higher version than
8.22.

I do not want to risk a manual downgrade (I have read that this is
unsupported).

Would anyone have a suggestion on how to troubleshoot this?

At the moment all I can think of is to purge all citadel packages and
then reinstall them, taking the "wrong" webcit version and the fact
that during hangs I cannot access webcit as a cue. Despite the actual
problem being IMAP access hanging.

As I said, a simple reboot solves the issue until the afternoon, or, in
most cases until the next day.

Very weird.

There have been no other changes to the system other than some minor
system updates that Ubuntu provides. The server also runs ntpd and
BIND9. Just FYI.

Thanks for any pointers, I appreciate it.

Best regards, Hakim
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S. Hakim Hamdani [ML] / Eroteme.ch

[#] Sat Feb 15 2014 09:57:23 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: IMAP connection timeouts after upgrade 8.17 -> 8.22

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8.2x was bugged until 8.24.

unfortunately my build environment broke, and I didn't have the time to get it working again.

however, debian jessie already comes with 8.24



[#] Sun Feb 16 2014 05:41:10 EST from "S. Hakim Hamdani [ML]" <ml@eroteme.ch> to citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: Re: IMAP connection timeouts after upgrade 8.17 -> 8.22

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Hello!

8.2x was bugged until 8.24.
unfortunately my build environment broke, and I didn't have the time to
get it working again.

however, debian jessie already comes with 8.24

Thank you for the prompt answer!

So, basically, I have these options:

1. grab packages from debian jessie repos and manually install these on
my system (hoping they'll work)

2. do an easy install over my existing installation after first
removing current packages whilst retaining configs and database
as well as hacking of the easyinstall script as regards locations for
installation

3. wait for updated packages on the debian/ubuntu repository page on
citadel.org

where (1) is worth a shot, (2) is fiddly and might break things more
and (3) just requires patience on my part and continued reboots of my
server.

That's about it, isn't it?

I'll look into grabbing packages from debian jessie for now to see if I
can manually get the whole thing up to 8.24.

I'll be in touch if things go terribly, terribly wrong. ;P

Thanks and best regards,

Hakim

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S. Hakim Hamdani [ML] / Eroteme.ch

[#] Sun Feb 16 2014 07:58:16 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: IMAP connection timeouts after upgrade 8.17 -> 8.22

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Sun Feb 16 2014 05:41:10 EST from "S. Hakim Hamdani [ML]" <ml@eroteme.ch> Subject: Re: IMAP connection timeouts after upgrade 8.17 -> 8.22
Hello!

8.2x was bugged until 8.24.
unfortunately my build environment broke, and I didn't have the time to
get it working again.

however, debian jessie already comes with 8.24
Thank you for the prompt answer!

So, basically, I have these options:

1. grab packages from debian jessie repos and manually install these on
my system (hoping they'll work)

2. do an easy install over my existing installation after first
removing current packages whilst retaining configs and database
as well as hacking of the easyinstall script as regards locations for
installation

3. wait for updated packages on the debian/ubuntu repository page on
citadel.org

where (1) is worth a shot, (2) is fiddly and might break things more
and (3) just requires patience on my part and continued reboots of my
server.

That's about it, isn't it?

I'll look into grabbing packages from debian jessie for now to see if I
can manually get the whole thing up to 8.24.

I'll be in touch if things go terribly, terribly wrong. ;P

Thanks and best regards,

Hakim

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S. Hakim Hamdani [ML] / Eroteme.ch

theres also option 4, compile the .debs yourselves:

http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:debian#tobuildfromsource

 

you can get the debian.org ones by adding i.e.

deb-src http://debian.netcologne.de/debian/ jessie main

to your /etc/apt/sources.list, then

apt-get update

apt-get source libcitadel

etc. see the above faq for more details.

in terms of build dependencies this is similar to attempting easy install, however you don't need to move stuff around to adjust the file positions.



[#] Mon Feb 17 2014 04:17:18 EST from Colton @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Citadel Installation - server failed to start

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I've tried the folliowing:

[code]colton@ubuntu:~$ sudo touch /etc/aliases

touch: cannot touch '/etc/aliases': Permission denied

colton@ubuntu:~$ sudo chmod -R 755 /etc/aliases

chmod: cannot access '/etc/aliases': No such file or directory[/code]

 

No sure what's happening here (I'm not that familiar with Linux just yet :S)



[#] Mon Feb 17 2014 04:37:48 EST from Colton @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Citadel Installation - server failed to start

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Tried again on an other VM - managed to successfully run the touch command before running the apt-get citadel-suite 

 

I'm now getting a slightly different failure - 

 

Not creating home directory '/var/lib/citadel'.

Setting up citadel-server (7.8-1) ...

applying your settings.

Setup is finished, but the Citadel server failed to start.

Go back and check your configuration.

 

So i'm dead in the water again :S



[#] Mon Feb 17 2014 06:39:52 EST from pidder @ Uncensored

Subject: Citadel on Raspi problems

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Hello everybody,

I am new to this forum and need a little help for my Citadel installation.

I run Citadel/Webcit with local authentication on a Raspberry Pi. I installed v8.14 by the repositories.

Commissioning went on nicely, I installed my CA and certificate and so on. Everything worked out without any problems.

I set up Korganizer on three PCs and synced my calendar thru akonadi using the https://myserver/groupdav/ URL. This also seemed to work fine in the first place.

Eventually I recognized two different problems:

1. When I try to enter an event by the Webcit interface, the server crashes as soon as I press 'save'.
   Restarting the citadel server does not bring the service back, only a complete reboot of the Pi gets me back.

2. Some appointments are displayed on one PC, but is not communicated to the other PCs and vice versa. This was working shortly after setting up the server!

3. Where are the logs? I found a webcit directory in /var/log bit it is empty. There is nothing at all about citadel?

I'd appreciate your help!

Pidder



[#] Mon Feb 17 2014 08:01:44 EST from "Holger Schröck" <holger.schroeck@svw.info> to citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: questions

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Dear all,

as I'm evaluating citadel some questions came up; maybe
one of you would be so kind answering them:

Is it possible to send mails as plain text?
(some of us are pretty annoyed getting html mails, so this
is very important)

We are running some mailing lists using mailman. With mailman
we can set members and their mail addresses via script, we
can also set members to be moderated or not.
How can that be done using citadel?

Is it possible to import contacts into citadel? Contact details
like names and addresses are stored in a mysql database.
I'd like to import these per script. How can that be done?
Or is citadel able to fetch contacts from mysql? (Of course
we need to write our own queries)
As contacts may change or be replaced importing data needs
to happen daily.

Does citadel support quota? (number of mails, used disc space)
Is it possible to set different quotas per user?

Can a user set his own "out of office" notification?

I'd like to keep exim as my mta; how can exim check whether
a mail address exists in citadel? (mails to non existing
addresses shall be rejected, so exim needs to know)

Using citadel's mta is it possible
- to get some statistics?
(who as sent/received how many mails)
- to set specific anti spam rules? (like no mails from domains
containing *.dsl.* and so on)
- to define own black lists (domains, IPs and mail address)


Thanks & Regards,
Holger
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IT-Beauftragter des SVW
:: Portal-Team

[#] Tue Feb 18 2014 11:30:24 EST from Colton @ Uncensored

Subject: Webcit - access via external IP

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I'm trying to configure access to webcit via an external IP -

I can currently access webcit internally via http://192.168.1.251:2000

Webcit is running on a VM of Ubuntu server 12.4 LTS with it's own static IP address

I've allowed all traffic on the address through my firewall, and mapped to the internal address, but when I try to connect on one of my external IP's, I get the following error:

Connection to server (external-ip) failed (Connection actively refused by the server.)

The firewall logs show traffic is being received  but nothing is being sent back from Citadel

Does Citadel have some kind of inbuilt feature which prevents this sort of connection? I'm baffled as i've routed the same external IP to other virtual machines before and haven't had any issues

Help would be immensely appreciated



[#] Tue Feb 18 2014 12:38:29 EST from "S. Hakim Hamdani AMRSC" <ml@eroteme.ch> to citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: Re: IMAP connection timeouts after upgrade 8.17 -> 8.22

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dothebart @ Uncensored wrote:

theres also option 4, compile the .debs yourselves:

http://citadel.org/doku.php/installation:debian#tobuildfromsource

you can get the debian.org ones by adding i.e.

deb-src http://debian.netcologne.de/debian/ jessie main

to your /etc/apt/sources.list, then

apt-get update
apt-get source libcitadel

etc. see the above faq for more details.

in terms of build dependencies this is similar to attempting easy
install, however you don't need to move stuff around to adjust the
file positions.

Thanks, what I did was this:

- clone my system (to prepare for the worst)
- stop citadel and webcit
- remove the packages installed from the citadel.org repository
- manually install (dpkg -i):

+ libdb5.3 (from quantal)
+ libical1 (from trusty)
+ libcitadel4 (from trusty)
+ citadel-* (from trusty)
- apt-get -f install (just to be sure, but all deps were met)
- compare old and new /etc/init.d/citadel and /etc/init.d/webcit
- merge them
- start citadel
- start webcit
- verify configuration in webcit
- connect with an IMAP client and verify I/O

Worked like a charm. 8.24 on all components and libcitadel4. Rock solid
so far.

Thanks for the friendly advice. I'll be staying on 8.24 for a while.

Was there an announcement of sorts that 8.2x < 8.24 was bugged? Put me
in a bit of a nasty position when I just upgraded thinking the 8.22
packages in the repository were "stable".

Cheers, Hakim

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S. Hakim Hamdani AMRSC
ml@eroteme.ch

[#] Wed Feb 19 2014 04:01:13 EST from Frederick Simmonds @ Uncensored

Subject: how do you get a web interface for the sever in the outside world?

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[#] Wed Feb 19 2014 20:31:24 EST from "garry" <garry@gdconn.com> to citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Webcit - access via external IP

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I'm trying to configure access to webcit via an external IP -

I can currently access webcit internally via http://192.168.1.251:2000

Webcit is running on a VM of Ubuntu server 12.4 LTS with it's own static IP address

I've allowed all traffic on the address through my firewall, and mapped to the internal address, but when I try to connect on one of my external IP's, I get the following error:

Connection to server (external-ip) failed (Connection actively refused by the server.)

The firewall logs show traffic is being received but nothing is being sent back from Citadel

I’m not sure if having a virtual machine has an affect on this or not. I wouldn’t know. All my machines are actual machines.

In my network, I have a linux box that acts as a dedicated firewall. So in situations such as granting external access to certain ports, I have to specifically configure that.

Do you have a machine / device acting as a firewall where you need to specifically grant approval for external traffic to connect with port 2000?

[#] Thu Feb 20 2014 11:44:05 EST from saphat @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Webcit - access via external IP

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I've had that same issue with the same setup.  I to am wondering if it has something to do with the VM setup.  I'm going to try running it on a dedicated machine and see if that works.



[#] Fri Feb 21 2014 07:04:44 EST from bainwave @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: New Installation Support requested.

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Hi,

Thanks for your support.

An other question...

we are getting error messages like the following....

  1. through this server without authentication
  2. A-lookup xxxxxxx.com - Could not contact DNS servers;
  3. AAAA-lookup yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.com - Could not contact DNS servers;
  4. AAAA-lookup zzzzzzzzzz.com - Could not contact DNS servers
  5. Return Code 550] sid: RKkt1n00S357YPK01 :: You must log in to send mail from abcd.com
  6. DNS server returned answer with no data;

Help me out to resolve these errors.

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Bain



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