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[#] Wed Apr 11 2012 22:45:39 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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Wed Apr 11 2012 21:44:09 EDT from zooer
Why don't you convert them to the lossless FLAC?

Better sound quality.

rethink your statement.

recoding always is a loss of quality. whether or not the new format might be capable of better quality.

[#] Thu Apr 12 2012 14:19:25 EDT from kinetix @ Uncensored

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I suspect the sentiment in the suggestion was probably to go from cd to FLAC rather than cd to mp3, which should produce better quality. Recoding from mp3 is certainly a bad idea.

[#] Thu Apr 12 2012 15:32:10 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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You are assuming that he still has the original source CD's.

[#] Wed Apr 11 2012 21:44:09 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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Why don't you convert them to the lossless FLAC?

Better sound quality.

[#] Thu Apr 12 2012 15:31:54 EDT from Spell Binder @ Uncensored

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<nitpick>Converting from MP3 isn't necessarily a bad idea if the bitrate for the encoded audio is high enough. I vaguely remember hearing that most people can't tell the difference between CD-quality audio and a 192 Kbps MP3.</nitpick>

[#] Wed Apr 11 2012 17:43:41 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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I am copying all my cd's of mp3s to my huge hard drive so I can copy them to DVD.

[#] Thu Apr 12 2012 14:02:06 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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Okay, I have rethought it, why not use FLAC? It has been around since 2001 and is lossless compression method. You could always record
a song using MP3 and FLAC and compare it yourself.

[#] Thu Apr 12 2012 16:40:35 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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I did misread what he wrote. He said "CDs of MP3s", I thought it was CDs to MP3.

[#] Fri Apr 13 2012 23:08:40 EDT from kinetix @ Uncensored

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SpellBinder: Nah, never ever re-encode from a lossy format. I don't care if it was encoded CBR at 512kbit. It's called 'lossy' for a reason. You could do it, if you don't care about the quality of the audio... but some of us will hear the artifacts without a doubt.

[#] Mon Apr 16 2012 16:20:52 EDT from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Apr 13 2012 11:08pm from kinetix @uncnsrd
SpellBinder: Nah, never ever re-encode from a lossy format. I don't
care if it was encoded CBR at 512kbit. It's called 'lossy' for a
reason. You could do it, if you don't care about the quality of the
audio... but some of us will hear the artifacts without a doubt.

That's funny. With the exception of zooer who recanted, everybody misunderstood me in one way or another.
I meant pretty much what I said.
I have CDs filled with mp3s, (none of which by the way were sampled from my own CDs) so I did no converting to mp3, I did no sampling of CDs, I did no converting FROM mp3 to anything else.
All I did was take a whole lotta CDs with an iso9660 filesystem of mp3s and copy them to a hard drive. When they're all there, I'm going to reburn those same mp3s to DVDs so I'll need less of them.

As for "care about the quality" I have had a lucky life.
I listen to music in my car and in a room with a few loud computer fans. I never am anywhere quiet enough to really appreciate quality of sound coming from a lossy compression scheme.
The vast majority of the time I can't even hear the radio over the wind noise in my car because I always have the windows open somewhat.
I used to have a stereo that could play crystal clear over the wind noise it was so loud, but I'm too old and it's too loud and I want to save what hearing I have left.
so crappy quality is fine by me.

And in fact there are plenty of cases where a slowed down song or an oversaturated tape actually made the song more enjoyable to listen to.

[#] Fri May 04 2012 13:00:02 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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There's something to be said for that. Scott Ian (of Anthrax) used to review their studio mixes in his car because he wanted to hear how the music "would really sound" without the aid of a perfectly tuned studio sound system.

[#] Fri May 04 2012 13:30:21 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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Did he drive a 1997 Honda Accord like all his fans?

[#] Fri May 04 2012 14:21:39 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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Analog media have/had the benefit of more enjoyable errors! A tape slowly degrading is something you only really notice when it is far too late, a CD degrades digitally. Either it sounds good or is annoying as hell.

Same has to be said about CRT vs modern video displays. My old CRT TV which we had to replace because we got some big lcd had a really brilliant display, DVDs looked astonishing, even DVB-S looked really good across all channels. The new TV is a perfect noise amplifier, budget DVDs look butt ugly, even my special edition of Baraka looks crappy. Same with DVB-S, only some TV stations really look proper. Contrast or color hue differences are far more visible :(

Now I need to upgrade DVD to BD and the sat receiver to something with hdmi out, too...

I also had to buy a compenent cable for the Wii because rgb via scart isnt progressive, although it could be, technically. Damn you americans with your crappy YUV stuff!!!!

[#] Fri May 04 2012 15:30:38 EDT from Spell Binder @ Uncensored

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I've noticed the same issue with my stereo gear.

I inherited a bunch of high-end consumer-grade audio gear made in the early- to mid-1980's from my wife's aunt. I haven't really been able to enjoy the equipment until recently, and it still needs some work, but I can definitely understand the concept of high-fidelity with this stuff!

I put in Pink Floyd's "Wish You Were Here" album--remastered CD--and I literally heard things in the production that I had never heard before. The ability of the stereo system at reproducing sound is amazing.

Then I decided to listen to one of the Queen's Greatist Hits CDs I have.
I love Queen's music, and I'm sure they had good sound engineers when all their studio tracks were recorded, but the music had nowhere near the stereo imaging and presence that the remastered "Wish You Were Here" had. It left me a little disappointed.

Then it hit me. I had read comments from audiophiles before about how high-end equipment had changed their musical tastes. Not so much in terms of genre, but in terms of being more discriminating. I wouldn't consider my stereo gear to be high-end by today's standards, but its ability to reproduce sounds works just as well for mediocre recordings as it does for good recordings.

Guess I'll have to start looking for remastered tracks of Queen, too!
Audio Binder

[#] Fri May 04 2012 15:37:02 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Playing DVD's on a high definition screen works better if you have a player with a digital output and a *good* upscaler. The screen itself isn't going to do as good a job, so you want the player itself to figure out how to upscale the DVD's native resolution into what the display thinks is native 1080p.

[#] Fri May 04 2012 15:50:12 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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I had been using CDs for a while, one day I found an old cassette tape that I recorded from vinyl Pink Floyd's
Animals on. Despite a lot of pops and noise I could hear the depth in the music again that the CD didn't contain. To
this day people argue with me about how much better CD quality is, I disagree.

[#] Fri May 04 2012 16:12:42 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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yea, watching analogue satelite TV on my 42" full HD screen was so painfull that I did it just once and then used DVB-T *flicker* *BZZZT*

thank god meanwhile DVB-S is working, and I've bought a dreambox 800hdse which does a descent job.

maybe you can even hook up an USB-DVD drive to it, since its quiet hackeable for your DVDs? ;-)

HD TV is realy enjoyeable. Though sometimes with real old movies the TV stations fuck up the scaling seriously, and its better to watch the lowres versions, and make the local gear do the upscaling.

[#] Wed May 09 2012 00:02:17 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Samson Meteor Mic demo

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Heh, unhappy small green pieces of paper.

[#] Fri Jul 27 2012 05:17:59 EDT from Viper2000 @ Uncensored

Subject: Audio Video support in Citadel

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can anyone guide me if Citadel support A/V server (and which one?website ref...)howto setup?some weblinks and Docs if possible.

[#] Fri Jul 27 2012 06:46:55 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Audio Video support in Citadel

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you probably mean the citadel commandline client?


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