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[#] Wed Jul 06 2011 19:44:02 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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,it wakes me up in the morning, and when i'm at my second home, there it gives me access to music and internet radio with my choice of music without any hassle.

about hacking it more... well... I already have a big timesink you might know ;-)

I still like its sound quality a lot (which compares to a JBL Control 1)

If you like an open product, I still recommend bying it. Its all GPL from the linux kernel part, and the logitech created userland was even licensed under a BSD license.

Though the build system & dependency management makes compiling it yourself a litte problematic, i'd name it _the_ opensource mainstream hardware buyable next to factory default unlocked android phones (which in fact are not that much, most of them require jailbraking therefore)

Its a little of a pity that they didn't upgrade the squeezebox boom hardware (true stereo speakers, led display) with the squeezebox radio core. (color TFT display, more powerfull CPU, dual coil stereo->mono speaker)

If you have your music on some networked disk, and like to have easy access to it (with a UI operateable by a 7year old), the squeezebox is your friend.

Compared to an average CD player, its not as easy to install & operate, but I guess that like comparing billy the kid with rambo.For somebody who drank the apple I* koolaid, it might be the wrong choice, but for an average geek like you (and your family once you made it work) its perfect.

[#] Wed Jul 06 2011 21:11:53 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I wish my squeezebox hadn't died on me. I had it for years, and loved playing music off of it, but it doesn't connect to the network anymore.

*considers something*

Unless... hmm...

[#] Tue Jul 19 2011 11:29:09 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Ok, you've been considering for weeks now, is it working yet?

[#] Tue Jul 19 2011 12:27:32 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Dunno, as I've forgotten.

I need to try replacing the power adapter. If that was the problem all along, I can get the thing up and running again.

[#] Fri Jul 29 2011 12:44:53 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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What is the excuse for the atronomical price of Wifi radios?

You get a whole modemrouter for around 30-50€, even one with more than one guest AP mode. These things are sending and not only receiving. Ok, they don't have a display, but they squeeze a half decent display into every non-wifi radio everywhere. I don't even require a touch interface, some wheel or keys are fine. You can get whole mobilephones (crappy ones) for free or around 10€.

Heck, you get a decent mobilephone for around 86€ with 3" color touchscreen and wifi. For around 200€ you get the whole package of BT, Wifi, GPS, GSM, FM and a geiger counter in one tiny mobile phone. And for some big bulky and ugly radio with ubarcrappy accustics they charge 100€ or more just because it has Wifi?!

Even if you don't want wifi, it is not possible to get a half decent fm radio which looks good, sounds ok, has working SD Card/USB support and a display which was not constructed with the purpose to illuminate the whole super bowl all by itself. At least not if you don't want to pay the Apple, Bang&Olufsen or $Overprized_Designer fee.


[#] Fri Jul 29 2011 16:58:14 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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It also has something to do with the economy of scale. When something is being produced in large quantities, the price tends to drop. This is why a plain old access point costs more than one with a router/firewall built into it, for example.

If the Wifi music players ever become commonplace, they will also become cheap. Don't look for this to happen, though; it is more likely that the mass market will prefer A/V equipment such as televisions with built in Ethernet.

[#] Sun Jul 31 2011 05:14:44 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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me likes the squeezebox radio.

it doesn't have an FM radio receiver though.

all open software, (linux kernel, their userland is licensed under the BSD license) nice sound, 100e and the server runs on all linux, solaris,...

[#] Tue Aug 02 2011 22:06:41 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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So ... the folks at X-10 (from whom I've bought stuff in the past) sent me this helpful advertisement for a new product they're carrying:

It's a whole-house audio distribution system. I'm very surprised that they're charging $1000 for this grade of cheap chinese crap. Does anyone know whether "encore" stuff is any good?

(As for me, I just have a wireless speaker that I take wherever I need it, including outside...)

[#] Thu Sep 22 2011 08:14:51 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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[#] Mon Oct 10 2011 22:24:25 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Wow, no matter how many times I watch it, my brain still processes it the wrong way.

[#] Tue Oct 11 2011 09:43:14 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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I closed my eyes and heard it wrong.

[#] Thu Dec 01 2011 11:24:18 EST from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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In reply to my wifi webradio device rant:

The market seems indeed not to exist! Not a single device on sale on Deal Extreme or China Vision! You could get Nokia-lookalike handys running android, with tv receiver and dual sim or anything you ever dreamed of as a car multimedia system to replace your normal radio, not to mention all the totally unnescessary light and sound emitting fun gadgets at astonishing low prizes. The various mobile phones and tablets have about every feature ever invented onboard, but no, nobody did built a wifi radio. I am not really willing to pay 100€ for one, not even for christmas.

[#] Sat Dec 03 2011 14:22:17 EST from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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I stand corrected, just when I gave up my search, the GF accidently found somethign on the netz while searching for something else: AEG IR 4436 for 70€. Looks decent but recensions on amazon are not that good, only 3 stars. Not that I really trust those reviews, but while searching I found kind of the egg-laying wool-milk-pig: Xoro HMT 350

It even has an sd card slot (Aeg's didn't), normal FM radio and can play FLAC! But on top of that it has a display and allegedly plays even avis and stuff like that. I already own a Xoro dvd player, which was the best priced one for the feature set it has included on the market, when my old one died. (I know that proper geeks should build their own HTPC, but the Women's Acceptance Factor is of high importance here.) This Xoro Wifi Radio only costs 79€ so I think it's a steal.

[#] Mon Dec 05 2011 07:13:07 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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well, the logitech squeezebox is a little more expensive, but its worth it imho since its whole userland is opensource.

WAF also pretty high, useable for a 1st grade kid to get the music from the mp3 bunch she likes in 3 minutes.

[#] Tue Dec 06 2011 18:15:37 EST from Ladyhawke @ Uncensored

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I'm still getting my head around: "the egg-laying wool-milk-pig"

Have no idea what the means, the_mgmt, but bet it would make for a great Ron White-ism!  :-)

[#] Wed Dec 07 2011 04:29:21 EST from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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Your average pig is suitable to be butchered for meat. It is a single purpose animal. But if you'd improve it, like make it give milk, you'd have an enhanced pig. Now make it grow wool and let it lay eggs, it would be one hell of a multipurpose animal, serving you meat, milk, eggs and some wool. It is an idiom, translating it does not make much sense, but I was lacking a proper way of describing it. After some search on I found "swiss army knife" and "all dancing and all singing" to be terms which resemble that meaning.

 @dothebart: Yes, but Squeezebox is over the 100€ mark and I am just not willing to pay that much. The Xoro device has a 3.5" color display and is 50€ cheaper. It is a linux device as I have read somewhere, too.


[#] Wed Dec 07 2011 09:56:18 EST from Ladyhawke @ Uncensored

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You know, I think I'm going to have to use that!  So much more colorful than "swiss army knife"....

[#] Wed Dec 07 2011 13:18:13 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I think 'Swiss Army knife' is the more popular idiom we use for the idea of something that has many purposes.

[#] Mon Dec 12 2011 16:04:55 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I've always preferred "swiss army chainsaw" myself. (The term was coined by Henry Spencer to describe the Perl programming language, as it was considered to be exceedingly powerful but ugly and noisy and prone to belch noxious fumes.)

[#] Wed Feb 22 2012 14:06:22 EST from Spell Binder @ Uncensored

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Last week I had the chance to help set up audio and video for a local school event. It was the first time I'd done any real A/V work for a public event, and though there were some issues, I was able to get everything working pretty well.

My son's elementary school decided to do an Iron Chef-inspired competition event as part of a local health-awareness program. Two chefs from local restaurants competed head-to-head, to create dishes that are healthy, taste good, and use local ingredients.

The chefs did all their cooking in the school's kitchen, which, though connected to the cafegymatorium, is physically separate. The event planners wanted both audio and video streamed into the main room for everyone to witness.

The original plan was to use an Apple iPhone and an iPad connected via Facetime.
The iPad would be connected to a projector for video, and a microphone set next to the iPad's built-in speaker for audio. This didn't sit well with me, and, luckily, it turns out the school already had a PA setup in the cafegymatorium (separate from the school's main PA system). I figured I would just patch into that system for audio. I came in a day early to get a look at the system, and, much to my surprise, they had a wireless microphone setup.

Two Shure SLX-series wireless mic systems, to be exact. One with an SLX2 handheld mic, and the other with an SLX1 lavalier mic. This made things incredibly easy, and, the signal was strong enough to reach all the way across the room from the kitchen to the SLX4 receivers on-stage. There was a little trouble getting both mics to operate simultaneously, but after realizing that the group and channel numbers on each mic had to match with each receiver, I got it working.

The night of the event comes and I show up a little early to make sure everything is working. The iPad and iTouch owners try to get Facetime to connect with no success. This goes on for a good 20 minutes before I finally tell them to start downloading Skype. I grab my laptop from my car, fire it up, get it connected to the projector, and, within minutes, have Skype video streaming from the iPad into my laptop.

The event planners decided that, since there was only one lavalier mic, they only used the handheld mic as it wouldn't be fair to have one chef mic'ed and the other not. Unfortunately, the handheld mic didn't do well for picking up what the chefs were saying.

If I can help out with another event, my wife suggested that we could rent an additional lavalier mic for the night and just use a standard corded-mic for any other announcements.
Iron Binder

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